Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[StrategicBear]

Why China is called a "joke" when they have 200 J-20 5th gen fighter jets, 700-800+ 4th gen jets, bombers, nuclear missiles, and hundreds of Hypersonic Ballistic Missiles and HGV Glide Vehicles are beyond me...

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Let us avoid war if at all possible, shall we?

so, if war is avoided, will we get another 'what is the meaning of this' thread?

 

[Ali_Baba]

Concentrate on the source of the conflict, which is Israel, using the limited resources of Iran. No skin off Israel's back if Muslim countries target each other but even one destroyed building in Tel Aviv is a big consideration for Israel.

The source has upgraded is defenses, and seems to have "infinite" refills and infinite lives from the USA right now. It is almost like water off a ducks back.

The Arab countries don't have that, and therefore the value to Iran is more from taking out the collaborators than the country guarded by the west. What is the best for buck, making sure Jordan, Bahrain, Qatar, UAE never allowing their bases to be used again, ever because their "glass towers" cost them real money to build, or the glass towers in Israel which will be paid for by the Americans ?

The source will need to be dealt with eventually, but to deal with them you have to remove the facilitators, and collaborators first so that you are left with "just" the source.

 

[VCheng]

so, if war is avoided, will we get another 'what is the meaning of this' thread?

Of course. Somebody will dream up something else, or pick one of the old perennial "favorites" to rant and rave about again. No shortage!

 

[tsunset]

Well, I've seen this before. Just shock and awe.

Russia did exactly same thing on Ukraine (first-five days earlier). Israel did same thing to Palestine/Lebanon (weak countries).

Nothing special on that.

They will just sterilize and castrate any country on earth besides China and Russia and make them a failed state so that they never become a threat again for at least 500+ years like Iraq if they really want to

They are violent

 

[VCheng]

They will just sterilize and castrate any country on earth besides China and Russia and make them a failed state so that they never become a threat again for at least 500+ years like Iraq if they really want to

They are violent

All the more reason to try to avoid such violence.

(Let us not forget what Russia did in Chechnya, and China in certain areas too.)

 

[tsunset]

All the more reason to try to avoid such violence.

(Let us not forget what Russia did in Chechnya, and China in certain areas too.)

Iran have no choice, their demands are unacceptable surrender terms like:

- Cap all missile range to 30km MRLS range

- Completely abandon nuclear program and dismantle all the facilities

- Give the uranium to the US

- Allow a murky U.S sponsored organism to verify the dismantling

- Cease all funding to resistance groups

- Sign a paper attesting that Iran will never threaten Israel for next 60 years

And even if Iran signs this, they won't even guarantee that they will lift sanctions and not attack Iran, and won't lift all the sanctions but only some of them

Who will accept this?

 

[VCheng]

Iran have no choice, their demands are unacceptable surrender terms like:

- Cap all missile range to 30km MRLS range

- Completely abandon nuclear program and dismantle all the facilities

- Give the uranium to the US

- Allow a murky U.S sponsored organism to verify the dismantling

- Cease all funding to resistance groups

- Sign a paper attesting that Iran will never threaten Israel for next 60 years

And even if Iran signs this, they won't even guarantee that they will lift sanctions and not attack Iran, and won't lift all the sanctions but only some of them

Who will accept this?

I will respect any decision that Iran makes, of course, whatever it might be. Some conflicts are just unavoidable, I suppose, given the circumstances.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Iran have no choice, their demands are unacceptable surrender terms like:

- Cap all missile range to 30km MRLS range

- Completely abandon nuclear program and dismantle all the facilities

- Give the uranium to the US

- Allow a murky U.S sponsored organism to verify the dismantling

- Cease all funding to resistance groups

- Sign a paper attesting that Iran will never threaten Israel for next 60 years

And even if Iran signs this, they won't even guarantee that they will lift sanctions and not attack Iran, and won't lift all the sanctions but only some of them

Who will accept this?

of course, both parties could negotiate and in mean time, IR could capture these miscreants.

problem solved

 

[VCheng]

of course, both parties could negotiate and in mean time, IR could capture these miscreants.

problem solved

Iran has successfully captured or neutralized all the miscreants already.

 

[Comandante]

nonsense

You are wrong! The attack will happen in a short time. The tankers are always timed. In the other forum I indicated that in the direction of the US Fott's advance, submarines should be planted at sea within missile and drone launch distance to wait for the carriers. Many people do not like this idea, although it would be a real surprise. The other is that the old F4s should be loaded with anti-ship missiles and patrolled so that they can be launched at the same time, and then go underground with them!

 

[Beast89]

Let us avoid war if at all possible, shall we?

But jews run USA

 

[Comandante]

Iran have no choice, their demands are unacceptable surrender terms like:

- Cap all missile range to 30km MRLS range

- Completely abandon nuclear program and dismantle all the facilities

- Give the uranium to the US

- Allow a murky U.S sponsored organism to verify the dismantling

- Cease all funding to resistance groups

- Sign a paper attesting that Iran will never threaten Israel for next 60 years

And even if Iran signs this, they won't even guarantee that they will lift sanctions and not attack Iran, and won't lift all the sanctions but only some of them

Who will accept this?

I haven't learned anything! Why doesn't the US make any deals with North Korea? If you are defenseless, there is no negotiation, only oppression! There is a limit to stupidity! You should have had at least 10 nuclear bombs a long time ago, you would have been safe and well for a long time.

 

[tsunset]

You are wrong! The attack will happen in a short time. The tankers are always timed. In the other forum I indicated that in the direction of the US Fott's advance, submarines should be planted at sea within missile and drone launch distance to wait for the carriers. Many people do not like this idea, although it would be a real surprise. The other is that the old F4s should be loaded with anti-ship missiles and patrolled so that they can be launched at the same time, and then go underground with them!

The Orange Blob and Israel needs way more time to prepare and finally come with a solid objective in Iran

 

[hasssanali8998]

Israel’s Civil Aviation Authority sent an urgent letter to foreign airlines warning that Israel is entering a “more sensitive period” toward the weekend.

If airspace closes, foreign flights will be prioritized to depart Israel.

This is seen as a precaution due to possible security escalation with Iran