Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[Hmmmm]

From early numbers i dont believe BS022 was claimed


The early numbers floating around were:

BS001(Largely confirmed by this point)
BS021
BS023
BS027

BS022 was indeed claimed

 

[NationalistPKDude132]

BS022 was indeed claimed

Strange though they didnt paintjob BS021 and BS023

I believe Raja Faisal said he had some internal sources inside India and they say these tail numbers:
BS 018(did this fly in parade?)
BS 021
BS 023
BS 027

Lots of confliction

 

[hasssanali8998]

BS022 rafale is seeing flying today which Pakistan claimed to shot down during may25 Conflict. ( twitter is full of news on this today)..

What it could be?

1) BS022 was not hit. Pakistan hit was on counter measures only.
2) New rafale under the table by France.
3) paint serial humber to another airframe ( it will have major problems in auditing later)
4) fake news by India today
5) fake news by Pakistan in may

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where are the Other 3 that were claimed then
where is BS 01 21 27 ??
remember they always said 3 confirmed and 4th one might be might not be
all this does is add more evidence that 3 were downed

 

[Corax]

BS022 rafale is seeing flying today which Pakistan claimed to shot down during may25 Conflict. ( twitter is full of news on this today)..

What it could be?

1) BS022 was not hit. Pakistan hit was on counter measures only.
2) New rafale under the table by France.
3) paint serial humber to another airframe ( it will have major problems in auditing later)
4) fake news by India today
5) fake news by Pakistan in may

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I knew they would do this, mark aircraft with the bort numbers claimed by the PAF to show they weren't shot down. It's like back in 2019 when they flew the Su30MKI call sign formation lol how stupid must the indian populace be to believe that, I mean it's not like bort numbers can't be painted and "call signs" be transferred to other aircraft lol

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

Nice paint job. IAF still can prove PAk claim wrong by lining up 36 Rafale. Or 35.

 

[hasssanali8998]

Nice paint job. IAF still can prove PAk claim wrong by lining up 36 Rafale. Or 35.

better yet 36 in flying formation . so leaves no doubt about their condition

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

all fired at once ? It doesn't happen like that. first of all we need to locate bahramos potential depos and destroy them as much as possible in first couple of days

true, but, if they take first strike then we are doomed

 

[NationalistPKDude132]

true, but, if they take first strike then we are doomed

very unlikely now... even indian army fanatic chief admitted pakistan knew where each and each asset was going.., the army would know imediately if indians tried to do that and likely launch pre emptive strikes

 

[Hmmmm]

Strange though they didnt paintjob BS021 and BS023

I believe Raja Faisal said he had some internal sources inside India and they say these tail numbers:
BS 018(did this fly in parade?)
BS 021
BS 023
BS 027

Lots of confliction

PAF has OFFICIALLY claimed to have shot down here:
A senior officer, told the author: “The Rafale is potent enough, and while we initially declared we had shot down three, BS001 [17 Sqn], BS022, BS027 [both 101 Sqn], we also had it confirmed by HUMINT [human intelligence] in mid-July that BS021 [from 101 Sqn] had been confirmed as shot down, over Srinagar.”

Establishing a secure connection ...

Neither BS018 nor BS023 were ever claimed.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

very unlikely now... even indian army fanatic chief admitted pakistan knew where each and each asset was going.., the army would know imediately if indians tried to do that and likely launch pre emptive strikes

Im still skeptical, you are under-valuing and underscoring enemy's ability.

 

[NationalistPKDude132]

PAF has OFFICIALLY claimed to have shot down here:
A senior officer, told the author: “The Rafale is potent enough, and while we initially declared we had shot down three, BS001 [17 Sqn], BS022, BS027 [both 101 Sqn], we also had it confirmed by HUMINT [human intelligence] in mid-July that BS021 [from 101 Sqn] had been confirmed as shot down, over Srinagar.”

Establishing a secure connection ...

Neither BS018 nor BS023 were ever claimed.

so seems that intelligence was either faulty or indian paintjob

I find this especially suspicious because:
1. Indias not allowing france to audit rafales for some reason
2. Why were BS001 BS023 BS027 not shown in formation if youre flying the formation of sindoor..... very very very suspicious..

 

[NationalistPKDude132]

Im still skeptical, you are under-valuing and underscoring enemy's ability.

nope... The enemy is still very strong indeed

My under valuence does not paint any relevance. The point is our military brass does not underestimate them..

Consistently the Air Force Planners repeatedly said on conference that "Rafale is a very very potent plane"

So our planners dont underestimate them.. this is me reiterating enemys own words.

 

[Yasser76]

Raises more questions then it answers. Where are the other planes? is this a paint job? Why do long after May.

Smell BS here

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

nope... The enemy is still very strong indeed

My under valuence does not paint any relevance. The point is our military brass does not underestimate them..

Consistently the Air Force Planners repeatedly said on conference that "Rafale is a very very potent plane"

So our planners dont underestimate them.. this is me reiterating enemys own words.

dear, they themselves have written off their airforce until AMCA or fifth gen. aircraft become available

even Rafale in numbers not coming up before 2030

meanwhile, IA is announced full time focus on Missile/Rocket Force

do you think, they are stupid, they will play to your advantages, 2025 was only a one window in a history, we were lucky bec. we were ahead of the curve

in missile and satellite tech, zios are way ahead, we are too naive

Further, zios will also improve their ability on other domains as well

so, no, we dont have advantage over them in info. intelligence

come out of your childish dreams

 

[Corax]

All bort numbers claimed by the PAF will miraculously appear on the parade.