Israel Genocide in Gaza - 2023 to present - Part ll

I’m not the most religious person but these odd weird grouping of countries and people start to make you think right many Arab and “Muslim” “leaders” who are living a corrupt immoral existence are siding with this guy many times Quran is up for interpretation but honestly it’s starting too very very odd what’s going on there there really isn’t a heroic just Muslim and Arab leader they’re all cowards who don’t want to step out of line for fear of their power and wealth disappearing tomorrow.

Agree or disagree with October 7 I disagree with many many parts of it and at the scope it was done should have just destroyed military outposts and bases on the Gaza border and kept any and all people who shouldn’t have been part of the onslaught out of it but you have to admit sinwar and deif played the world and Israel they believed these guys were just happy to play army in Gaza and keep their fiefdom but they actually believed in the live and die by sword they could have safely exited Gaza before October 7 but they decided to stay even knowing the odds of them living after the war was nonexistent
I just think where history will put Asim munier and how History will treat shit family..
 
I just think where history will put Asim munier and how History will treat shit family..
To be fair they’re all like that and I’m not singling out one of them but putting them together collectively
 
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But this time story is different. Chinese cargo ships are unloading heavily non stop
Other than a few random “news” sites are there definite news that Iran is delivering nonstop with military planes to Iran I think what Iran needs more than anything iafter the Israeli hit is advanced EW systems that aren’t seemingly compromised Russian systems to prevent Iranian systems from being shutdown in the initial attack if American forces have that widespread ability
 
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But this time story is different. Chinese cargo ships are unloading heavily non stop
China could certainly supply raw materials, especially to help with solid fuel ballistic missiles production.

I was a kid back in 2003 Iraq war so I'm curious for those of that time how that build up looked and compares to this current build up around Iran. I would assume the 2003 Iraq one was way more significant. Even putting aside troops.

This is where our brother @LeGenD could chime in. He is very knowledgeable mashallah when it comes to these matters.
 
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Hamas agrees to two-state solution too. It's the deception the US and Israel have played on Muslim nations that there must be a unity government in Palestine for a two state solution to take effect.

This is fundamentally wrong as Palestinian society is diverse, we have atheists, communists, Marxists, liberals, Islamists, etc.... Palestine is not a monarchy it's a democracy. Way more democratic than even Lebanon or Syria, any other Arab nation.

Gaza does not contradict this. In Gaza there is serious support behind a Palestinian security body to protect Palestinian lives and right of return. Which is why you have Hamas and Islamic Jihad in Gaza. It is highly complex and for outsiders they may not get it, but we are fully democratic with this in mind.

The PLO accepted two state solution in Oslo Accords. Israel kept kicking the can down the road. PLO recognized Israel. Everything was mapped out with timeline and supposed to end with Palestinian sovereignty. Israeli's did not live up to their end of obligations and even stole Gaza's territorial waters.

A two state solution requires immense pressure on Israel. Not just from the US but the EU and also Arab and Muslim nations. If Arab and Muslim nations make neighboring nations around Israel stronger and grant them more leverage that way, Israel will find more incentive to agree to two state solution. Because having them weakened has increased it's appetite instead.

Then there is the possibility the Israeli Jews will never concede to a two state solution. And international protection is required for Palestinians.
 
Israel and US able to decipation strikes inside Iran is just a huge failure on Iranian military and IRGC not having any kind of advanced warning despite the jets should be visible coming across Syria -> Iraq at the time

It should be even more visible to IRGC/Iran if the US does it by launching off from the seas

Iran is not their backyard like Gaza and Southern Lebanon, or Damascus.

It's also way more risky and difficult to kidnap Iranian Supreme Leader. And wouldn't even help with regime change so that's not going to be tried.

Their only way is a protracted military campaign that keeps targeting Iranian gov't and military while attempting to foment unrest on the ground.

If they truly seek regime change. There is no point of any other strikes even small symbolic ones. It is either going to be a long term pressure campaign that may even last two years to choke Iran economically or they start a immediate regime change military campaign in coming weeks.
 
What are Arab and Muslim nations doing differently right now after the two years of pure savagery and genocide waged by Israel and the US on Gaza?

We saw the most extreme barbarism ever known to mankind in Gaza and we didn't forget it. You can just start thread from page 1 and go through thread again if your memory is short.

Israel is a massive terrorist threat we demand all Muslim nations prepare differently and heed to their defense and security needs more than ever before
 

Gaza’s unequal dead: 10,000 Palestinians under rubble, one Israeli captive​


A huge military operation to recover a single Israeli body exposes a grim moral paradox: Precise forensics for the occupier, and mass graves and lost identity for the occupied and bombarded.

To retrieve one body, the Israeli military mobilised a fleet of tanks, drones, and what locals described as “explosive robots”.

They turned a neighbourhood into a “kill zone”, dug up approximately 200 Palestinian graves, and left four civilians dead in their wake.

The focus of this overwhelming force was Ran Gvili, an Israeli policeman killed more than two years ago, the last Israeli captive in Gaza after more than two years of Israel’s genocidal war on the besieged enclave.

His successful recovery on Monday was hailed by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu as a triumph of commitment. But just metres (yards) away from where Gvili’s remains were carefully extracted, a very different, gruesome reality persists.

According to the National Committee for Missing Persons, more than 10,000 Palestinians remain entombed under the rubble of Gaza, decomposing in silence, lost and without identity.

Families grieve without closure for their missing, presumed dead loved ones.

There are no explosive robots clearing the way for them, no forensic teams flying in to identify them, and no global outcry demanding their recovery.

International media do not rush to break news about them.

The digging up of the al-Batsh cemetery in Gaza City’s Tuffah neighbourhood has become a visceral symbol of a deadly double standard: A world where one Israeli corpse commands the attention of an army, while thousands of Palestinian bodies are treated as part of the decimated, apocalyptic landscape.

A ‘kill zone’ around the graves​

Khamis al-Rifi, a journalist in Gaza who reported from the vicinity of the incursion, detailed the sheer scale of force used to isolate the area.

“It started with exploding robots and air strikes … clearing the path for the tanks,” al-Rifi told Al Jazeera. He explained that approaching the cemetery was impossible, as tanks enforced a deadly perimeter, firing at anything that moved.


From his position near the “Yellow Line”, Israel’s self-proclaimed buffer zone inside Gaza, al-Rifi described a “wall of fire” created by artillery and helicopters to protect the engineering units. Inside this sealed zone, witnesses and video footage obtained later revealed that the forces spent two days churning up the earth.

“They dug up about 200 graves,” al-Rifi said. “They pulled the martyrs out, tested them one by one until they found the [Israeli] body.”

The disparity was most evident in the aftermath. Gvili’s remains were airlifted for dignified burial in Israel. The Palestinian bodies, however, were left to the mercy of bulldozers.

“When citizens went to the area [after the withdrawal], they found the martyrs put back randomly … covered with sand by the bulldozers,” al-Rifi said. “Some bodies were still visible on the surface.”

‘The world’s largest graveyard’​

While Israel used satellite technology and DNA labs to close the chapter on its missing policeman, Palestinian families are denied even the basic machinery to dig.

Alaa al-Din al-Aklouk, spokesperson for the National Committee for Missing Persons, stated last November that Gaza has become “the world’s largest graveyard”.

“These martyrs are buried under the rubble of their homes … without their last dignity being preserved,” al-Aklouk said. He highlighted the “fatal injustice” of an international community that mobilised resources for Israeli captives while blocking the entry of heavy civil defence equipment needed to recover Palestinian victims.

Mustafa Barghouti, secretary-general of the Palestinian National Initiative, told Al Jazeera on Monday that while he respects the right of any family to bury their dead, the contrast is inescapable. “The lack of equal treatment, the lack of respect to Palestinians as equal human beings, is really astonishing,” he noted.

A cost paid in blood​

The dark irony of this Israeli mission is that it created new victims. On Tuesday morning, as residents approached the desecrated cemetery to check on the graves of their loved ones, Israeli fire struck again.

“Four martyrs fell in the area this morning,” al-Rifi said, noting that one of them, his relative Youssef al-Rifi, had simply gone to inspect the destruction left behind.

In its quest to close a raw chapter that has shaken its national psyche since October 2023, Israel opened new graves in 2026. The operation serves as a grim microcosm of the entire war: The sanctity of one side’s life and death is upheld at the absolute expense of the other’s.
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