India is incomplete without Pakistan: Indian Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajapayee

[Muji.Iqbal]

UN says vacate army first but anyway what UN says or said doesent matter, the world is way past that chapter

Sorry idiot, there is no expiry date or time limit on the partition rules or UN resolutions.

The UN resolutions are applicable as they are today as the were in 1948.

Kashmir remains a problem to be solved by plebiscite. Too bad for you!

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Should Join hands , like Russia and China
and Create a Mega Block


Russia-China-India-Pakistan-Iran , plus Whole Middle east (Saudia-Pakistan already are now linked)

In an idealistic world , of course India does have 224 Million Muslims as well
and Majority of India has good ties with Russia

So it is a Natural evolution and , regional harmony

 

[Muji.Iqbal]

UN says vacate army first but anyway what UN says or said doesent matter, the world is way past that chapter

India too has to vacate the army as the same time. It is not just Pakistan.

Stop using that argument, it doesn't work. "Pakistan needs to withdraw troops first"

No!

Both India and Pakistan need to withdraw troops equally to ensure a fair plebiscite in Kashmir.

 

[Muji.Iqbal]

Should Join hands , like Russia and China

No! We Pakistanis are happy with our independence. We want nothing to do with India.

We either HATE or dont care about India.

 

[vasanthm]

Sorry idiot, there is no expiry date or time limit on the partition rules or UN resolutions.

The UN resolutions are applicable as they are today as the were in 1948.

Kashmir remains a problem to be solved by plebiscite. Too bad for you!

Too bad, too bad, what to do

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Well Russia-China Joining hand and better ties did not mean they merged but they do have stronger regional harmony against outside invaders

The future of EuroAsia is linked together

It is the most "logical" thing to do

Russia has it's own unique identity , China has it's own identity
while they were rivals at one point but now they are allies

 

[vasanthm]

India too has to vacate the army as the same time. It is not just Pakistan.

Stop using that argument, it doesn't work. "Pakistan needs to withdraw troops first"

No!

Both India and Pakistan need to withdraw troops equally to ensure a fair plebiscite in Kashmir.

Wrong. UNSC Resolution 47 required Pakistan to withdraw first, not equal withdrawal. Pakistan never complied, so the process stopped there.

Later, the Simla Agreement made Kashmir a bilateral issue.

You can’t ignore the conditions for decades and then demand a reset. Now India doesent care

 

[Baibers_1260]

Read before fake claiming - people are not idiots who just believe on anything or claims!

Just Google it about "Ramdhari Singh Dinkar" and what as dedicated peem for in 1948.

So the poem Azadi Adhuri Hai was written by Patha ( Bihar ) based Ramdhari Singh Dinkar ?

Your ignorance is profound..
I think you failed your Hindi paper in the Bosrd exam because you can neither read the Hindi text nor the Roman Hindi, English language translation.

Read ( if you can )

पंद्रह अगस्त का दिन कहता:...

पंद्रह अगस्त का दिन कहता: आज़ादी अभी अधूरी है। सपन......

kavishala.com

 

[Musings]

Sorry idiot. We want our generals in power. They are loyal to Pakistan first before anyone else.

Kashmiris want to be independent, and have a right to have a country of their own.

There were other compromises as well, like the Chenab formula but India rejected that option as well, that India gets Southern Jammu.
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Pakistan being ruled is irrelevant to the Kashmiri demands of self-determination.

Anymore posts referring to members as idiots etc will get you an immediate ban. Cut it out now

 

[Baibers_1260]

Haha why do you need comparable data on small municipil regions we are not talking about internal issues in India.

You are the one who made the comparison between Old ("poor" )City Owaisi run Hyderabad and the new recently developed suburbs of Gacchibawli, Cyberabad ( Orbis mall area) , Kondapur .
The question was is the Old City dependent on Central or State fund "bail outs " ? I don't know.. All I know is that apart from tourism, ( it's only the Charminar ), some pearl trade, jewelry, and garments industry , there is very little any other type of business there . However foreign remittances keep the population relatively self-reliant and fairly prosperous . It is a densely populated area, but I wouldn't call it a dump.

Personally, I find the Husain Sagar ( muddy and fulll of rotting straw and sticks after festivals ), and the granite quarries around Kondapur, Gachibawli with its filthy stagnant pools ( with people defecating in them ) stink as badly as the gutter sewer Moosi river flowing through the old city.

Take any city in India that is booming it'll be run by either BJP or a regional party. Even places like Kerala where BJP has almost zero presence, the capital city is run by BJP.

I don't think Simla or Bangalore is run by the BJP.. These are very nice cities.

Where does the BJP come into the argument here. I was talking about vassal states and bail outs? Why are you diverting the conversation? Are you a RSS Modi supporter ? If so I understand l

 

[Baibers_1260]

Yes the answer is nobody caveats Pakistan. ABV is dead and the new crop of leaders have no interest in adding Pakistan. It doesn't matter how many times you try to explain away his comments, if you ask any Indian, his answer would be an emphatic no.

I wouldn't ask "any Indian" . I would ask your defense minister.
Why did Raj Nath Singh say India wants Sindh?

Rajnath Singh Says 'Sindh May Return to India Again'; Pakistan Calls Remark 'Provocative Rhetoric'.​

Rajnath Singh Says 'Sindh May Return to India Again'; Pakistan Calls Remark 'Provocative Rhetoric'

In its statement, Pakistan noted,

thewire.in

New Delhi: Defence minister Rajnath Singh on Sunday (November 23) told a Sindhi community gathering that “borders can change” and “Sindh may return to India again”. Further, he asserted that Sindh remains deeply embedded in the country’s cultural identity while blaming earlier governments for not giving minorities in the neighbouring countries “the rights they needed”.

“Today, the land of Sindh may not be a part of India, but civilisationally, Sindh will always be a part of India. And as far as land is concerned, borders can change. Who knows, tomorrow Sindh may return to India again,” Singh was quoted as saying by The Hindu during the Sindh Samaj Sammelan in New Delhi.

Singh referred to the writings of Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) veteran L.K. Advani to highlight the anguish experienced by Sindhi Hindus during Partition, noting that many from that generation never accepted Sindh’s separation. Quoting Advani, he said the Indus (Sindhu) River was regarded as sacred by Hindus across India and held in equal reverence by many Muslims in Sindh, who viewed its waters as comparable to the Aab-e-Zamzam of Mecca.

Linking his remarks to the national anthem, he highlighted the continued resonance of the words “Punjab, Sindh, Gujarat, Maratha”. He noted that the Supreme Court’s 2005 decision that upheld the inclusion of “Sindh” was evidence of the region’s lasting civilisational and cultural significance irrespective of the current boundaries, The Hindu reported.

 

[Baibers_1260]

@vasanthm @Raj-Hindustani

So no Indian wants Pakistan back in India ?

RSS chief advocates 'Akhand Bharat', says Pak in distress ever since its Partition

https://www.millenniumpost.in/natio...k-in-distress-ever-since-its-partition-432813


Hyderabad: Advocating the need for 'Akhand Bharat' (undivided India), RSS chief Mohan Bhagwat on Thursday said countries such as Pakistan which broke away from India are now in distress.
Speaking at a book launch here, Bhagwat said 'Akhand Bharat' is possible through "Hindu Dharm" but not by force. "There is a need to make glorious Akhand Bharat for the welfare of the universe.That's why there is a need to awaken patriotism for the country," Bhagwat said. More than the present India, the separated parts of erstwhile India, which shed their relevance with the country, have more necessity for the reunification to come out of their "miseries", he further said.

Stressing that the concept of 'Akhand Bharat' is possible, Bhagwat said some people had expressed serious doubts before the partition of the country in 1947 whether Pakistan would be formed, but it happened. India's first Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru, when asked before partition of the country in 1947, had said the possibility of formation of Pakistan was "dream of fools" though it happened.

According to Bhagwat, Lord Wavell (during British rule) also said in British Parliament that God has made India one and so who would divide it. "But ultimately it (partition of India) happened. What seemed to be impossible had happened, so it cannot be ruled out that 'Akhand Bharat' which may seem to be impossible, will not happen," he said. Alleging that there is unhappiness in the separated regions of 'Akhand Bharat' which now do not call themselves as 'Bharat', the RSS chief said the remedy to come out their miseries is reunification with India. "They (separated countries) did all they could, but did not find any remedy. And remedy is reunification (with Bharat) only and all their problems will get resolved," he said. He, however, said the reunification should be done through "humanitys dharm" which according to him is called "Hindu dharm".

 

[Baibers_1260]

@vasanthm , @Vkdindian1 @Raj-Hindustani

‘Akhand Bharat’ the undisputed truth, says RSS chief Mohan Bhagwat

Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) chief Mohan Bhagwat has said that the people of Pakistan are not happy after more than seven decades of independence and they now believe the partition of India was a mistake.

www.thehindu.com

Akhand Bharat’ the undisputed truth, says RSS chief Mohan Bhagwat​

Even people in Pakistan say Partition was a mistake, he says​

Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) chief Mohan Bhagwat on Friday said ‘Akhand Bharat’ was the undisputed truth and a divided Bharat was a nightmare.

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

@vasanthm @Raj-Hindustani

So no Indian wants Pakistan back in India ?

RSS chief advocates 'Akhand Bharat', says Pak in distress ever since its Partition

https://www.millenniumpost.in/natio...k-in-distress-ever-since-its-partition-432813


Hyderabad: Advocating the need for 'Akhand Bharat' (undivided India), RSS chief Mohan Bhagwat on Thursday said countries such as Pakistan which broke away from India are now in distress.
Speaking at a book launch here, Bhagwat said 'Akhand Bharat' is possible through "Hindu Dharm" but not by force. "There is a need to make glorious Akhand Bharat for the welfare of the universe.That's why there is a need to awaken patriotism for the country," Bhagwat said. More than the present India, the separated parts of erstwhile India, which shed their relevance with the country, have more necessity for the reunification to come out of their "miseries", he further said.

Stressing that the concept of 'Akhand Bharat' is possible, Bhagwat said some people had expressed serious doubts before the partition of the country in 1947 whether Pakistan would be formed, but it happened. India's first Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru, when asked before partition of the country in 1947, had said the possibility of formation of Pakistan was "dream of fools" though it happened.

According to Bhagwat, Lord Wavell (during British rule) also said in British Parliament that God has made India one and so who would divide it. "But ultimately it (partition of India) happened. What seemed to be impossible had happened, so it cannot be ruled out that 'Akhand Bharat' which may seem to be impossible, will not happen," he said. Alleging that there is unhappiness in the separated regions of 'Akhand Bharat' which now do not call themselves as 'Bharat', the RSS chief said the remedy to come out their miseries is reunification with India. "They (separated countries) did all they could, but did not find any remedy. And remedy is reunification (with Bharat) only and all their problems will get resolved," he said. He, however, said the reunification should be done through "humanitys dharm" which according to him is called "Hindu dharm".

Sir, this has already been said. There is no need to keep repeating.

So you want to post and share the Pakistani sources regarding Ghazwa-e-Hind..

As stated earlier, there are foolish individuals on both sides of the border who are completely detached from reality.

My favourite - when I get free, want to have some laugh, I watch them

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[vasanthm]

@vasanthm , @Vkdindian1 @Raj-Hindustani

‘Akhand Bharat’ the undisputed truth, says RSS chief Mohan Bhagwat

Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) chief Mohan Bhagwat has said that the people of Pakistan are not happy after more than seven decades of independence and they now believe the partition of India was a mistake.

www.thehindu.com

Akhand Bharat’ the undisputed truth, says RSS chief Mohan Bhagwat​

Even people in Pakistan say Partition was a mistake, he says​

Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) chief Mohan Bhagwat on Friday said ‘Akhand Bharat’ was the undisputed truth and a divided Bharat was a nightmare.

lots of wacky ideas flying around to keep the followers interested in the organisation and provide purpose.. it's all posturing and speeches without substance I feel