Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

The Iranian Airforce of course was revitalized with batches of new Fighter Jets with new Radars and Missiles (what was it 40-50 fighters?)

Togather with new Hunter Missiles from China and Russia (SAM) system the hunt is now on for the Carrier

Netinyaho better practice his running to Bunker routine again , he might be out of shape , This time around it could be Orshinik coming for his ass

[Indian Media of course always have the most drama music ]

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[prokhorudro]

What? 36k people were killed?! How are they justifying this?!!!

Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

More than 36,500 Iranians were killed by security forces during the January 8-9 crackdown on nationwide protests, making it the deadliest two-day protest massacre in history, according to documents reviewed by Iran International's Editorial Board.

www.iranintl.com

 

[ToddE]

What? 36k people were killed?! How are they justifying this?!!!

Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

More than 36,500 Iranians were killed by security forces during the January 8-9 crackdown on nationwide protests, making it the deadliest two-day protest massacre in history, according to documents reviewed by Iran International's Editorial Board.

www.iranintl.com

Read about ownership of this website, you will understand the rest.

 

[Aad80]

Some people in here, mostly Americans, are still absolutely delusional about Iranian military capabilities. I have relatives living in Haifa. Iraqi jews. They told me Iran hit strategic targets inside Haifa and the surrounding area at will, all of them. Do I need to repeat this? All of them at will. They said Iran could level Haifa in a heartbeat, if they would use their more advanced missiles but they are not as insane as Netanyahu (they hate him with a passion). Iran would have no problem taking out the entire carrier strike group now hiding like terrified rats behind the mountains of Oman.

Americans really need to understand this.

 

[mulj]

Some people in here, mostly Americans, are still absolutely delusional about Iranian military capabilities. I have relatives living in Haifa. Iraqi jews. They told me Iran hit strategic targets inside Haifa and the surrounding area at will, all of them. Do I need to repeat this? All of them at will. They said Iran could level Haifa in a heartbeat, if they would use their more advanced missiles but they are not as insane as Netanyahu (they hate him with a passion). Iran would have no problem taking out the entire carrier strike group now hiding like terrified rats behind the mountains of Oman.

Americans really need to understand this.

they undestand but they need to listen their handles anyway.

 

[Persian Gulf]

16x Military Cargo arrived in Iran in last 70 hours

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not true

Posted on Fox News. Make of it what you will:

Trump says Iran called 'numerous' times to make deal as carrier enters Middle East waters

President Donald Trump indicated Iran is seeking negotiations as the USS Abraham Lincoln carrier enters the region and protests continue inside Iran.

www.foxnews.com

likely true. we know there are direct channels between Araghchi and Witkoff, and Witkoff opposes strikes on Iran. IRI is down for a deal but US terms are too maximalist for IRI at this moment so something has to give. either US compromises on its terms or thinks it can make IRI give more concessions after a devastating brief military campaign. but June's campaign didn't do that, so I suspect the latter is not correct.

Well the thing is , the Gulf of Arabia/Iran is quite narrow , for fat aircraft carrier it is the worse place to be

such a Gulf does not exist. there is only the Persian Gulf.

Persian Gulf - Wikipedia

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[Persian Gulf]

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resistance groups increasing their preparation for an all out war with the US and Israel

 

[Pak-Warrior]

such a Gulf does not exist. there is only the Persian Gulf.

You are correct. It is called Persian gulf.

However, Nobody owns oceans and whoever named an ocean first does not mean that every other person is compelled to use that name.

The US changed the name of Gulf of mexico to Gulf of America. Now whoever likes to call it Gulf of America will call it by that name. Whoever wishes to use old name will keep using old name. Languages, Names, borders, even religions, nothing remained static.

 

[Persian Gulf]

You are correct. It is called Persian gulf.

However, Nobody owns oceans and whoever named an ocean first does not mean that every other person is compelled to use that name.

The US changed the name of Gulf of mexico to Gulf of America. Now whoever likes to call it Gulf of America will call it by that name. Whoever wishes to use old name will keep using old name. Languages, Names, borders, even religions, nothing remained static.

you can have this debate in another thread, but while you post in the Iranian section you should use the international recognised name of the Persian Gulf

 

[Ali_Baba]

Lincoln CSG is now in the region.

It has been in the region for a few days, Iran has published drone footage of the carrier group already which means they know where it is.

 

[Ali_Baba]

There is no trap. Everything is now out in the open. We were misled. We anticipated a massive bombing campaign across Iran or some sort of dramatic decapitation operation.

It turns out that the US is pursuing a very straightforward and logical strategy. They have a clear roadmap with a detailed, gradual plan to execute.

They begin with a naval blockade and simply observe Iran's response. If that proves ineffective, they will likely target symbolic yet less critical military assets, such as the Iranian Navy.

At each step, they will pause to assess Iran's reaction, allowing Tehran time to adjust hoping the regime's survival instincts kick in and they accept US demands. However, they maintain complete control over the escalation potential.

This clearly indicates that all the discussions about regime change were merely a tactic to instill fear. Their true aim is to have a defanged, non-threatening, harmless Iran that poses no threat.

The Americans at this point don't seem interested in catastrophic war consequences that would choke the region and global economy. Very Trump.

Israel may not be entirely pleased with this approach, but it is certainly better than nothing.

It does make sense to me.
The US probably wants to start 'Project China' before the Chinese become too powerful and therefore is not interested in a long war with the Iranians.

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This strategy depends on how Iran will respond. If they are blockaded, they can be passive and accept it, which will lead to the complete throttling of their economy, or they can impose their own blockade as well on all oil not reaching the rest of the world and pressure the Americans at the first ladder of their escalation matrix. That is the decision point at that level in the ladder.

Iran is here, because its responses have been passive, and have encouraged further encroachment. Lets see what they decide, time will tell. Israel seems to have its "own plans" to "encourage" a USA/Iran conflict.

Note, Israel has told airlines that their airspace will not be available on the 31st Jan/1st Feb 2025, so it may well be a full attack from Israel alone ? With blockade from the USA ?

 

[Ali_Baba]

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I thought this news was dismissed as fake news ?

In the same way that "Sindoor" helped validate the PL15E, the Chinese have a perfect opportunity to get some testing done of their anti-shipping missiles if things do kick off.

 

[tsunset]

There are no protest in Iran since nearly 3 weeks now

 

[Mehdipersian]

Hello from Iran. Finally, the international internet is open.

 

[Mehdipersian]

If America dares to attack, we have been waiting for a long time to see the film of their ships sinking . Watching destruction of Jewish towns is also our eternal dream.

Unfortunately, oil wells in the region will burn too