PAF J-10CE News, Updates and Discussion

[rafale]

Yeah, because you know, darker skinned black haired people can't possibly come up with a superior system, only the tall, blonde haired, blue eyed Arian master race is entitled to that.

But then it does lend credence to their theory or inherent racist ideologies.....after all, Frenchi, blonde haired blue eyed designed Rafales were being flown by the inferior race Indians...............so it was not the platform but the people using it????

 

[Yasser76]

But then it does lend credence to their theory or inherent racist ideologies.....after all, Frenchi, blonde haired blue eyed designed Rafales were being flown by the inferior race Indians...............so it was not the platform but the people using it????

Thats what the AVM said at the presser right? Good aircraft flown badly....

 

[Yasser76]

Yeah, because you know, darker skinned black haired people can't possibly come up with a superior system, only the tall, blonde haired, blue eyed Arian master race is entitled to that.

100% Just very strange this was the most significant air battle in modern history and it is deliberately being down played....

 

[Michael]

It is another thing to keep in mind, the vast number of trained manpower China has and the depth of engineering talent PAF has......

A sufficiently abundant supply of talent is indeed China's greatest advantage at present.
Currently, China has an average of over 12 million university graduates and over one million postgraduate students (master's and doctoral degrees) every year. Approximately 60% of these graduates are in STEM fields. This doesn't even include the even larger number of graduates from vocational education programs.

 

[Hussain]

100% Just very strange this was the most significant air battle in modern history and it is deliberately being down played....

It's being downplayed, because Gora sahab's house nigger lost, got his behind handed to him on a silver platter.

 

[Taimoor]

It is another thing to keep in mind, the vast number of trained manpower China has and the depth of engineering talent PAF has,

Many countries can buy high end items but will fall down on trained manpower resource.
Even US and Europeans struggle to support new export sales with full packages and countries have to use private contractors. In our case PLAAF can help as well as OEM

To summarise, China is one stop shop. Cant say for the likes of France or rest of the Europe. Or maybe now America which relies on Chinese rare earths.

 

[studsmart]

In my opinion, China currently possesses comprehensive self-sufficiency in all aerospace components, encompassing development to delivery, akin to the previous status of the United States or Russia. To be honest, China is the sole nation presently capable of complete end-to-end self-sufficiency, from raw materials to final product distribution. This includes design, jet engines, airframes, software, avionics, among others. Such an accomplishment is significant, highlighting the country's strength. Pakistan is fortunate to have China as its ally and partner; this relationship is invaluable. Now that is priceless.

 

[m52k85]

Mission capable was 20 planes out of 20 in the air that night. Your point is?

Arsalan gaib after leaving a shurli.

Availability is lower bounded by mission capable rate, so if he accepts your assertion of 18 in the air, then he will be in a spot of bother.

 

[Ak01]

It's the age old argument between the US/Western camp vs China camp. Those who still want to cling on the teat of Unkil Sam and those who see where the wind is blowing. We can't beg or borrow from Unkil anymore.

who said anything like this?

Why cant an aircraft having 80% availability be unrealistic?

Why does it HAVE to be tied to uncle sam?

dont bring your silly cope here.

 

[Hussain]

2 on standby ready for scramble

QRA = Quick Reaction Alert

 

[Ak01]

Arsalan gaib after leaving a shurli.

Arslan has been supposedly flying all day. I do live outside the forum.

Mission capable rate= how many aircraft are capable of conducting atleast ONE mission type.

Availability= how many aircraft are available at full strength.

Availability is lower bounded by mission capable rate, so if he accepts your assertion of 18 in the air, then he will be in a spot of bother.

Why would i be in a spot of bother? If i even accepted this magical 18 number, 80% availability is not a given. You could perhaps say an 80% MC rate.

Though, i disagree with the initial assertion itself of 18 aircraft out of 20 in the air at a time.

I dont buy it for a second. However, instead of tagging me and crying about me suggesting the PAF is bullshitting, you can cope elsewhere other posts, im not interested.

You underestimate how often planes break and how often they need to be in a hangar to be looked at.

 

[Ak01]

Yeah, because you know, darker skinned black haired people can't possibly come up with a superior system, only the tall, blonde haired, blue eyed Arian master race is entitled to that.

Its very interesting, only one of us jumped to races...

 

[Ak01]

18 airborne and 2 on standby ready for scramble if needed, thats 100% availability.

this would be unheard of...globally, forget for fighter jets, but for any aircraft! Put me onto whatever maintenance you're doing, i should be sending my planes there also.

 

[Falcon26]

No one knows, you are referring to the old gen Mr. Lodhi class three small ones (I am forgetting the plane name)

It used to be 2 active DA-20s and 1 trainer. The trainer was later fitted as well, which makes it 3 active DA-20 EW standoff jammers.

 

[Yasser76]

Arslan has been flying all day. I do live outside the forum.

Mission capable rate= how many aircraft are capable of conducting atleast ONE mission type.

Availability= how many aircraft are available at full strength.


Why would i be in a spot of bother? If i even accepted this magical 18 number, 80% availability is not a given. You could perhaps say an 80% MC rate.

Though, i disagree with the initial assertion itself of 18 aircraft out of 20 in the air at a time.

I dont buy it for a second. However, instead of tagging me and crying about me suggesting the PAF is bullshitting, you can cope elsewhere other posts, im not interested.

You underestimate how often planes break and how often they need to be in a hangar to be looked at.

You need to calm down. Your responses to other members show a very fragile ego.

PAF and Alan Warnes say we had almost the entire J-10 fleet in the air. If that happens to contradict you on the forum dont take it out on others. It really is not a good look.