Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

This is why the American empire is ending.....everyone hates a bully.
BRICs, Shanghai cooperation Council...the de-dollarization trade...etc.
EU building up their armies, and signing cooperation pacts. etc.
It took an idiot like Trump to speed up the process, the dollar is crashing, and banks are buying gold by the wheelbarrow to move away from the Dollar, meanwhile he thinks he's making America great. It's a tragedy
I was invited here back in '09. I read variations of your arguments since then. Some comments said Venezuela will bring US down.
 
Iran is a country with a functioning government that makes its own foreign policy choices. Good enough for me.

Its a unpopular revolutionary government that is disliked by its own masses for the mess they created in name of fighting Israel and US.

Whats good enough for you does not matter, you are not an Iranian or have to live with the fact that your country and countrymen have to face a hyper military super power and its allied armed to teeth middle power, both at same time, because 10-12 people at top decided to follow their "Principles".
 
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I am a conservative American who is very much anti-Iran because its actions and rhetoric have destabilized the Middle East for 45 years, thereby necessitating far too much American involvement, costing us American lives and trillions of dollars of "treasure". However, I do believe that if Trump starts a war with Iran, he will lose millions of conservative Americans like me. We do not want to be the World's policeman, nor do we want to enable Israel to dominate and bully it's neighbors. If Trump attacks Iran, he will definitely lose the House of Representatives and there will be no JD Vance or other Republican successor in 2028. He might get away with a pin prick attack, but not something that precipitates a major conflict and destruction across many Middle Eastern nations. Because of Trump's huge bombast and bullying this past year, rather than concentrating on domestic problems, he is already on very thin ice with voters like me. An attack on Iran in the present circumstances is totally unjustified. If he does it, he will become a lame duck President. Unfortunately, a very dangerous one. VCheng is correct. We all need to survive the next 2-3 years and he will be gone. Pray for that.

Weren't you a supporter of the genocide Israel committed?
 
The US capability can easily take him out no matter how deep he is all they got to do is take out the ventilation systems and they will suffer a horrific death of asphyxiation. They will also take out all entrances and exits turning the mountain into his tomb.
if it was that simple Israel would have done it by now
 
The three letter agencies are furious at the failure of their color revolution and pressing their Epstein advantage hard!!


Iran is still good enough to deport people too though.

Good for them, I saw so many dumb Iranians idealizing life in the U.S. or Europe, seeing them now deported and mistreated makes me laugh.......
 
I think Khamenei might order a preemptive strike on US Naval forces. This is his decision after Jamkaran mosque. Since war doesn't seem likely to be avoided due to Trump and Israeli belligerence, Iran might well "use it before they lose it" when they now have the perfect number of ASBMs and drones to saturate a carrier group with. Any move on US forces is fair game since Trump has killed Soleimani and ordered Midnight Hammer before, so now Iran has casus belli to respond first.
Watch the next 24-48 hours.
That would be the wisest course of Action but Khamenei doesnt have the will to do it.
 
In fact, they want that as an opening salvo... one that assumes that if the decapitation is successful the underlings will and/or can be cowed...
They'd not be motivated, nor have a sense of direction or feel for objectives... therefore could be persuaded for less.

The lack of motivation stems from Israels pressure on Trump, as u can see Epstein case is under the raps for now. and you know why ? Because trump has agreed to attack iran. if that attack is not followed through, ZIO media will start talking about Epstein files again and Trump and his relation will come to light. Just see how things have changed.

Its black mailing of American administration to help push them to attack Iran. it is so unfortunate that a small punny country Israel controls our great country. But i strongly believe it happened only because of disloyalty of our own fellow Americans who have treasonous behavior to our country and prefer Israeli interests over our own.
 
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这是一个不得人心的革命政府,它以对抗以色列和美国的名义制造混乱,因此也遭到本国人民的憎恨。

你觉得够好的东西并不重要,你又不是伊朗人,你不必面对你的国家和同胞必须同时面对一个超级军事强国及其武装到牙齿的盟友中等强国的现实,而这一切仅仅是因为高层 10-12 个人决定遵循他们的“原则”。
If you wanna be a Poodle , you need to be born like one.
 
Its a unpopular revolutionary government that is disliked by its own masses for the mess they created in name of fighting Israel and US.

They made their choices; they will face the consequences, just as they wish for the rewards. That is also good enough for me.
 
if it was that simple Israel would have done it by now

Question to Iranians: Will Khamenei exit his role as the Supreme Leader of Iran lead to significant changes in Iran's foreign and/or domestic politics? I ask because sometimes only one man becomes an 'institution' in himself and the others around him just 'follow the orders'.
We overrate the virtues of 'democracy': In the end, it is only half a dozen people or even just one person calling the shots on critical matters, in crunch situations, even if the leadership can be changed through the elections some years down the road.
 
Question to Iranians: Will Khamenei exit his role as the Supreme Leader of Iran lead to significant changes in Iran's foreign and/or domestic politics? I ask because sometimes only one man becomes an 'institution' in himself and the others around him just 'follow the orders'.
We overrate the virtues of 'democracy': In the end, it is only half a dozen people or even just one person calling the shots on critical matters, in crunch situations, even if the leadership can be changed through the elections some years down the road.

A follow-up question: Will changing a few people at the top be enough to significantly change Iran's foreign and domestic policies, with particular emphasis on economic rescue?
 
“Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face” Tyson...

Bully only knows one thing... let him run to moma! Remember all the good advice he skipped...

Only good coming out of this would be a demolition of zion and their demilitarization... Nuremberg style trials for miliekowsky, et al!

I often wondered about the hikmah of jahanam....For some an eternity therein.

Then we see Mileikowsky and his enablers Lie about a counter-offensive by a subjugated and starved population with the most heinous of allegations (beheaded babies, mass rapes) to justify their very own carnal desires; > 600,000 dead, > 2.2 million starving/starved, > 2.2 million tortured, subject to 'complex ptsd", in psychiatric terms (forced hunger, constant fleeing, uninterrupted drones flying overhead disturbed sleep, explosions all around you, for over 2 years no matter what your age IS TORTURE).

He is doing this to millions of people, every second of every day. And, he would do this for eternity IF given the chance. Nobody forced him to do that, he could have been a florist?

Anyway, there is less to wonder about this hikmah, for me at least. All will attend their judgement....it cannot be postponed by wars.
 
Turkish authorities say they have dismantled an espionage network linked to Iran, arresting six people accused of gathering sensitive military information, with Cyprus emerging as part of the alleged operational planning.

According to Turkish newspaper Daily Sabah, the arrests followed a coordinated operation by Turkey’s National Intelligence Service (MIT), working alongside police units across five provinces. The suspects are accused of collecting classified military and security data and preparing possible attack scenarios, including surveillance of the Incirlik Air Base in southern Turkey.

What has raised eyebrows closer to home is an allegation that one member of the network was planning to move armed drones through Turkey to occupied Cyprus, and potentially onward to the Republic of Cyprus, using companies he owned as cover.

Turkish investigators say the network was allegedly directed by Iranian intelligence officials Najaf Rostami, known by the alias “Haji,” and Mahdi Yekeh Dehghan, known as “Doctor.” Rostami is said to have tasked a Turkish national based in eastern Van province with recruiting individuals to secretly photograph and film areas around the Incirlik base.

The investigation also reportedly uncovered the role of an Iranian national living in Ankara, who allegedly planned to transport armed drones under the guise of legitimate commercial drone activity. Authorities claim the transactions were presented as routine business deals in the unmanned aerial vehicle sector, masking their true purpose.

According to Turkish security sources, two of the suspects had received specialized drone training in Iran during the summer of 2025. Parts of the alleged logistics planning, they say, involved the movement of equipment connected to Cyprus.

The six suspects were arrested in raids centered in Istanbul and have been remanded in custody by court order. They face charges of obtaining state secrets for political or military espionage.

Investigators say the group relied on encrypted communications under the code name “Güvercin,” the Turkish word for “pigeon,” while funding was allegedly funneled through commercial transactions linked to unmanned systems.

The case comes as Turkey says its intelligence service significantly stepped up counter-espionage operations in 2025, carrying out hundreds of missions at home and abroad targeting spy networks, terrorist financing and cyber-related crimes.
 

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