Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Shags101]

It is just mindblowing stupid for anybody to belive you can win this war with Air Assaults.

Iran has 100% the capabilities to push back against all enemies, if command does not mess it up and reacts smart and stays proactive.

They can’t win with from just the air but neither can Iran win outright either and if Iran does hypothetically cause mass casualty event against American troops on land or sea it’s going become a lot worse trump once to do another victory lap show how much a bad ass he is a guy who has never been in a war or fought anyone but helpless women in thinking iran isn’t going to let him have his victory lap and no more telegraphed strikes hours in advance

 

[Mobius]

It is just mindblowing stupid for anybody to belive you can win this war with Air Assaults.

Iran has 100% the capabilities to push back against all enemies, if command does not mess it up and reacts smart and stays proactive.

"If command does not mess it up" are the keywords here. Given their track record, I hope Iranian command has sharpenned up.

 

[Meengla]

They had a chance to reform for years, but the fking Jalili types have been holding on to power, or even worse, sabotaging any normalization attempts. This is the reason I ridicule the hardliners, because they're idiots...their policy is why we are here now. They lack world experience, and have limited knowledge of global power and politics.

Probably because of nearly half a century of large diplomatic isolation. It is usually better to sit at the table then to be on the menu.

They can’t win with from just the air but neither can Iran win outright either and if Iran does hypothetically cause mass casualty event against American troops on land or sea it’s going become a lot worse trump once to do another victory lap show how much a bad ass he is a guy who has never been in a war or fought anyone but helpless women in thinking iran isn’t going to let him have his victory lap and no more telegraphed strikes hours in advance

I'd like to buy your unique keyboard?!!

 

[StrategicBear]

Iran still has another 36-hour window to make a Preemptive Strike. Use it or Lose it. Now is the time to strike while the iron is hot. 40K US troops in the Middle East now needs to go, along with the USN carriers. Wipe them out. All of them.

 

[mangekyo]

If the US attack on Iran is based on genocidal attempt, then China has the moral obligation to prevent this to happen.

However, we are a deeply aware that most Iranians don't like Chinese, and nor most people in China view Iran as a favorable country.

Sure, China will help Iran to survive against a chaos bringer like Trump, but most people in China also expect that Iran will go back to cozy up with the US when the next potus will be a democrat with slightly more friendlier tone.

If the alien has attempted to invade, humanity will still hardly be united against the incoming extraterrestrial threat.

We Chinese are just super rational when it comes to judge the humanity.

The Iranians who favor the west is a small minority. What you are saying is simply not true. Iran and China are ideologically incompatible, and there is nothing wrong in admitting that. Both Chinese and Iranians have been humiliated by westerners. But Iran decided to resist and fight back. Unfortunately Iran stands alone. China has accepted they can’t beat the west and has decided to become subservient merchants for the westerners. From a pragmatic standpoint China is right. From a moral standpoint however, China has betrayed humanity.

 

[Shags101]

Probably because of nearly half a century of large diplomatic isolation. It is usually better to sit at the table then to be on the menu.



I'd like to buy your unique keyboard?!!

It’s me on my iPhone look I have already apologized MULTIPLE times about my grammar I’m not one for commas periods quotations and !!!!!!!! So DEAL WITH IT(trying to do a trump trump thing with all caps to emphasize my words to act tough)
Here I go again I SINCERELY APOLOGIZE for my posts that seem to run on forever.
But seriously I’m here to lighten the mood to many sour faces sometimes levity brings people together……back to the thread people

 

[wangdefa]

According to the recent analysis, China will help Iran to survive against this onslaught, but China won't expect that Iran will view it as a benefactors.

Nor forming a formulated alliance as the relationship between the two countries will still be primarily based on trade.

I am a realist, and I do not make meaningless assumptions. In reality, we have not signed any military agreement with Iran, but from the perspective of our top government, we still attach great importance to friendship with Iran, only considering friendship and assistance. In the absence of any agreement, Chinese military assistance is limited, and the Iranian military has no experience in operating Chinese systems. These are not significant, and I am not optimistic. Instead, I'm more optimistic about intelligence support, having spy satellites and navigation, and providing a god's perspective on Iranian missiles. The main force still depends on whether the Iranian army itself can fight with determination and whether the spies are effectively cleaned up.
If a country is infiltrated by spies, it is destined to be an unequal game. We don't care how others see it, but we try not to get involved too deeply. Unless their country is ready.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

The Iranians who favor the west is a small minority. What you are saying is simply not true. Iran and China are ideologically incompatible, and there is nothing wrong in admitting that. Both Chinese and Iranians have been humiliated by westerners. But Iran decided to resist and fight back. Unfortunately Iran stands alone. China has accepted they can’t beat the west and has decided to become subservient merchants for the westerners. From a pragmatic standpoint China is right. From a moral standpoint however, China has betrayed humanity.

China has a lot of oil reverse in the places like Xinjiang and South China Sea, but we just put so put some extra insurance factors by diversifying the oil purchase from Russia/Iran/Venezuela until our renewable energy transition is 100% completed.

A lot of MAGA Americans don't want to Trump to attack Iran because it gonna deplete more US strength to contain against China.

We have already couple of them in this thread, and these people are just more anti-China than they are anti-Iran, because Iran is not a peer adversary to them.

If China decides to help Iran, it is also based for moral principles of humanity, not profit driven motivation.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

I am a realist, and I do not make meaningless assumptions. In reality, we have not signed any military agreement with Iran, but from the perspective of our top government, we still attach great importance to friendship with Iran, only considering friendship and assistance. In the absence of any agreement, Chinese military assistance is limited, and the Iranian military has no experience in operating Chinese systems. These are not significant, and I am not optimistic. Instead, I'm more optimistic about intelligence support, having spy satellites and navigation, and providing a god's perspective on Iranian missiles. The main force still depends on whether the Iranian army itself can fight with determination and whether the spies are effectively cleaned up.

During the color revolution one or two weeks, China has helped Iran to disable the Starlink according to the Russian Sputnik agency.

As those Russians are hardcore China military bashers, even they did acknowledge this, then it is most likely true, and China will likely keep proving assistance via satellite navigation/jamming and reconnaissance support.

To gain moral high ground will be considered a long term investment even most Iranians don't like us and they will cozy up with the US by any given chance.

 

[Immortals]

Another one:


And another one:

Every single one of those accounts are unreliable and have been known to spread propaganda.

 

[PakAl]

 

[wangdefa]

During the color revolution one or two weeks, China has helped Iran to disable the Starlink according to the Russian Sputnik agency.

As those Russians are hardcore China military bashers, even they did acknowledge this, then it is most likely true, and China will likely keep proving assistance via satellite navigation/jamming and reconnaissance support.

To gain moral high ground will be considered a long term investment even most Iranians don't like us and they will cozy up with the US by any given chance.

Compared to the various requests for help on the Internet, effective practical support, we have done enough, and the rest can only rely on their government to make decisions, whether it is war or peace.
I still stand by my view that, in the absence of any legal backing of a military agreement, I am optimistic about Iran's determination to fight alone.

 

[mangekyo]

Iranians don't like us and they will cozy up with the US by any given chance.

What are you basing this on, and who are the «Iranians» you are referring to? Iranians living in LA?

 

[mangekyo]

 

[BigMela2onin]

Diplomacy can't work because you can't negotiate with the US as it is acting as a proxy in West Asia and not as a sovereign state. Iran would need to negotiate directly with the jews.