Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

During the color revolution one or two weeks, China has helped Iran to disable the Starlink according to the Russian Sputnik agency.

As those Russians are hardcore China military bashers, even they did acknowledge this, then it is most likely true, and China will likely keep proving assistance via satellite navigation/jamming and reconnaissance support.

To gain moral high ground will be considered a long term investment even most Iranians don't like us and they will cozy up with the US by any given chance.
Compared to the various requests for help on the Internet, effective practical support, we have done enough, and the rest can only rely on their government to make decisions, whether it is war or peace.
I still stand by my view that, in the absence of any legal backing of a military agreement, I am optimistic about Iran's determination to fight alone.
 
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Diplomacy can't work because you can't negotiate with the US as it is acting as a proxy in West Asia and not as a sovereign state. Iran would need to negotiate directly with the jews.
 
Compared to the various requests for help on the Internet, effective practical support, we have done enough, and the rest can only rely on their government to make decisions, whether it is war or peace.

Yes, it depends on the government and people of Iran, but they decide the capitulation to the US is the best solution, then there is nothing we the outsiders can do about it.
 
I am a realist, and I do not make meaningless assumptions. In reality, we have not signed any military agreement with Iran, but from the perspective of our top government, we still attach great importance to friendship with Iran, only considering friendship and assistance. In the absence of any agreement, Chinese military assistance is limited, and the Iranian military has no experience in operating Chinese systems. These are not significant, and I am not optimistic. Instead, I'm more optimistic about intelligence support, having spy satellites and navigation, and providing a god's perspective on Iranian missiles. The main force still depends on whether the Iranian army itself can fight with determination and whether the spies are effectively cleaned up.
If a country is infiltrated by spies, it is destined to be an unequal game. We don't care how others see it, but we try not to get involved too deeply. Unless their country is ready.
I won't question China's decision not to aid Iran militarily in a direct manner, since I respect that, but I'd like to ask you to hear about how you view this regional tensions and possible war from a Chinese perspective.

How do you view a possible war between Iran VS USA/Israel will turn out and what chances Iran has of sinking a US Carrier? You may not be a military expert but I'd like to hear your opinions and suggestions what Iran can do to win by herself without Chinese direct assistance. Can you comment?
 
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Fk Trump.....he's playing with fire....Iran is now fully aware of what is at stake, a weak response will lead to a slow death, or fight back so hard that the entire calculs changes in the West's eyes. Good luck Iran.......I certainly hope they back off and call this futile exercise of brute force off, if not, Europe and Asia, and the Gulfies will pay the price for this unnecessary adventurism.
 
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I want Iran to do a Preemptive Strike on US Naval forces, so let us all Muslims pray Khamenei makes this decision quick. The Imperialist Colonizers of European descent manning those warships needs to be pounded and pummeled ASAP while Iranian assets are still unharmed.
 
What are you basing this on, and who are the «Iranians» you are referring to? Iranians living in LA?

We have been backstabbed multiple times by Iran, and we are very sober about this relationship.



Huawei shouldn't do any business with Iran to bypass the US sanction, and it ended getting sold out by Iran.



You should know that the Covid-19 was a bio attack on both China and Iran, yet you blame solely on us.


To be honest, most Chinese just want to sit and to watch, but we know the Chinese government will very likely give Iran another chance to cozy up with the next democratic president.
 
Fk Trump.....he's playing with fire....Iran is now fully aware of what is at stake, a weak response will lead to a slow death, or fight back so hard that the entire calculs changes in the West's eyes. Good luck Iran.......I certainly hope they back off and call this futile exercise of brute force off, if not, Europe and Asia, and the Gulfies will pay the price for this unnecessary adventurism.
Sad to see that under direction from Tel Aviv the USA has evolved into a barbarian. Civilised folk everywhere, even those who still exist in USA itself, will be backing Iran to defend itself and teach them a lesson.
 
They are not “pinpoint” accurate as strikes against ISIS in Syria showed as well as strikes against Kurdistan headquarters or against terrorists in Pakistan lawless border.

Any improved accuracy vs LR missiles is due to distance. It’s well known a gyroscope loses accuracy the longer the missile is in the air due to vibrational effects. So naturally a 200KM missile gyroscope will retain its accuracy longer than a 2000KM missile given the much shorter flight time.

No dude. Let me make things clear:

1) Missile guidance error doesn't come from "gyroscopes losing accuracy with distance." In an inertial navigation system, both gyroscopes AND accelerometers contribute. Error accumulates primarily with time in flight, not kilometers traveled.
Gyro bias --> position error grows roughly t^2 (time spent in trajectory squared)
Accelerometer bias ---> position error grows either t^2 or t^3 (time spent in trajectory cubed). t^2 if it's a good accelerometer, t^3 if it's a bad one.

So yes, shorter-range missiles drift less, but it's mostly because they are in the air for fewer minutes, not because of fewer kilometers. That distinction matters. Physical forces matter but modern gyros are extremely vibration-tolerant, so it doesn't matter nearly as much as time spent in trajectory.

2) Let's do the math: The flight time from Iran to Iraq/Persian Gulf is 3-5 minutes depending on launch location.

Iran to Israel: Flight time of about 10-12 minutes.
So let's take the average of each: 4 minutes and 11 minutes.

11 min / 4 min = 2.75. Now let's calculate how much more error they accumulate: gyro error contribution grows by (2.75^2) = 7.56x. Accelerometer error contribution grows by (2.75^3) at worst and (2.75^2) at best. So that's another 8-20x error.

These differences are HUGE.
We haven't considered things like earth rotation and coast phase effects.

3) Let's assume two types of MRBMs, both of them traveling roughly to the same target, but one is twice as fast. The MRBM that is twice as fast will accumulate 1/4th to 1/8th of the error compared to the slower MRBM from gyro bias and accelerometer bias. The faster MRBM will be subject to much harsher physical forces but you can account for that by shaping the trajectory. A two-stage MRBM can be faster during mid-flight but land at re-enter at roughly the same velocity as a single-stage one, so the terminal velocity will be the same. In the end, the you will have gained more accuracy by spending less time in flight, than you lose by being subject to greater physical forces.

3) SRBMs, especially post-2020, have a real advantage of terminal guidance. You see, SRBMs renter 2-3 km/s. MRBM's reenter at around 4+ km/s. That matters a lot for IR / radar seekers. Plasma will form around the warhead so you're blinded if you come in too fast. The way to reduce this is to make the warhead more blunt, rather than pointy, but this is harder for MRBM's that it is for SRBMs.

Same with terminal maneuverability, a lot less time for course correction,

4) Longer-range ballisitic missiles have to deal with Earth rotation (Coriolis effect), and small angular errors that accumulate over time (here you are correct, but they are minor).

5) Finally, both the Al Asad air base strikes in 2019 and the al-Udeid strikes showed high accuracy. Certainly less than 50m CEP on Al Asad airbase in 2019 and less than 25m CEP on al-Udeid airbase in 2025. That is very accurate.

Iranian SRBMs are lethal. Mostly solid fuel. Very dangerous stuff. Why are you making things up?
 
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I won't question China's decision not to aid Iran militarily in a direct manner, since I respect that, but I'd like to ask you to hear about how you view this regional tensions and possible war from a Chinese perspective.

How do you view a possible war between Iran VS USA/Israel will turn out and what chances Iran has of sinking a US Carrier? You may not be a military expert but I'd like to hear your opinions and suggestions what Iran can do to win by herself without Chinese direct assistance. Can you comment?

No, they won't dare to sink a US carrier, all countries in the globe are waiting China to sink all US supercarriers, because mutual destruction of these two countries will be considered to be beneficial for them.

Most countries in the world are getting sick of seeing another superpower on the rise.

Including the Russians, they don't want to be dominated by the Americans nor by the Chinese.

The world geopolitics is complicated, not just good vs evil.
 
Serious Analysis of the Situation Now URGENT!

It's possible the Americans may make the move within the next 24 hours to preempt the Joint Drills of Iran, Chinese and Russian navies in the Persian Gulf region! If Iran wants to make a Preemptive Strike, they should do it immediately within the next hour or two! Use it or Lose, it, IRGC!!
 
No, they won't dare to sink a US carrier, all countries in the globe are waiting China to sink all US supercarriers, because mutual destruction of these two countries will be considered to be beneficial for them.

Most countries in the world are getting sick of seeing another superpower on the rise.

Including the Russians, they don't want to be dominated by the Americans nor by the Chinese.

The world geopolitics is complicated, not just good vs evil.
Dont be so hard on Iranians, they treated their own country the same in many areas. I na way, since the 12 day war some heads have woken up, but not all of them yet.
 
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Zionist psyops, fake news. These x sources are all discredited.
 

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