Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Eşbah]

Iran will not relinquish its missiles, nor its proxies, and will not abandon its right to a civil nuclear program. We know that, the Americans know that.

Then what is the objective of the meeting on Friday if we are all aware that the unavoidable result will be war no matter what? What is the purpose of stalling the inevitable? Tell the US a firm "No" and go to war? Why is Tehran waiting for the US to finish its military build-up? I do not understand the logic of Iran's behaviour unless they still secretly hope that Washington will back down last minute?

 

[Persian Gulf]

Jews source of news and they are pushing hard to brake it, american envoys would be still in region till Friday, it is not over yet before war.

correct

 

[Persian Gulf]

Based Iranian negotiators

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it worked, US crumbled and agreed to limit negotiations to nuclear file as Iran insisted.

 

[Shags101]

the HEU stockpile is not destroyed, but buried under rubble. and any attempt to retrieve it will be spotted in real time

Dude I’m really starting to think that it’s not buried there at all starting to think Iran moved most of it away are you telling me there isn’t the slimmest possibility of a deep underground tunnel system from pick axe to natanz it barely a mile and half even Hamas with their limited resources could build deeper and longer tunnels

 

[Persian Gulf]

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this corrupt sex offending senile criminal does not understand Iran or Khamenei at all

Khamenei is a guy who turned up to massive Friday prayers in Tehran in front of millions with an ak-47 rifle by his side only 3 days after Iran fired 180 ballistic missiles at Israel and Jew media was spreading huge rumours about how big Israel's response was going to be

he is many things, but he is not afraid of death

 

[VCheng]

it worked, US crumbled and agreed to limit negotiations to nuclear file as Iran insisted.

So what tangible benefit has Iran gained from this "crumble"?

 

[Persian Gulf]

I hate to be that "I told you so" guy, but I had warned people on here about an all-out war with the US since 2018 and they all laughed and said the US would never dare to do that because it will be too costly and blah blah blah.

I did warn these fools that instead of mocking Biden for his incompetence and senility, they should help him appear as a strong, reasonable president in the US by negotiating with him while building nukes covertly as fast as possible. Biden was God's gift to the Ayatollahs, and they missed that opportunity as usual. God gave these idiots 4 years to prepare for the return of Trump and what did they do? Nothing other than stealing money off the pocket of ordinary Iranians to send it to a bunch of useless rag-tag militias in Arab countries. Where are these militias now?

Without nuclear weapons, even a ground invasion of Iran is no longer out of the question. Let's not forget that millions of Iranians inside Iran and out of Iran cherish the idea of foreign military intervention if it means to get rid of the Ayatollahs. It was only a month ago that the regime killed thousands of Iranians in 2 days, if not over 10 thousands. If you think people will fight against the Americans to save the Ayatollahs, you're still living in your fantasies and delusions.

There is no scenario, not even a single imaginary scenario, where any of these events could end in a good outcome for Iran or the Iranians. All possible outcomes are terrible. And nobody is to blame for this other than Khamenei and the IRGC.

Basij and IRGC did not go anywhere and of course they would fight US troops until the end

10,000 number is ridiculous, even monarchist channels are starting to get closer to the official 3,000 number

 

[Arash]

BREAKING: Talks between Iran and the US set for Friday has been cancelled, according to Axios
Nuclear talks between the U.S. and Iran, scheduled for Friday, were canceled due to Iran’s refusal to engage in non-nuclear issues.

Source: Reuters, citing Axios
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Scoop: Plans for Iran nuclear talks are collapsing, U.S. officials say
original author is Barak.ravid

Excuse me, isn't Axios an Israeli source ???

 

[Persian Gulf]

But why? It seems to be the perfect time to attack Iran.

1. This is his second term. So, no matter what happens, he will leave the office in 3 years anyway. He no longer needs to worry about his next presidential term.
2. Iran has never been this weak since 1988 after the Iraq-Iran war: Iranian nuclear program was effectively destroyed in June. Iranian economy is on the verge of complete collapse with Iranian Rial devaluing on a daily basis and prices soaring every week. Public dissatisfaction is at its peak. The regime has brutally suppressed protests which gives the US a moral justification to save their public image. What better time should they wait for?
3. Even if Russia wanted to help Iran (they don't, but even if they did), Russia is busy in Ukraine and needs the US to settle that war. Hence, Russia has very limited options to help Iran.
4. Venezuelan oil is back in the market and the US controls their oil now, enabling them to launch a war with Iran without worrying about a huge shock to the world economy.

It seems to be the perfect time for a US attack on Iran.

Trump wants a third term and has mid terms in November, he doesn't want a long war

Iran is not at peak strength but certainly not at the lowest level since 1988, that is ridiculous. in 1998 what weapons did Iran have to hit back at the US? compared to now with General McKenzie claiming a few years ago that Iran has achieved overmatch relative to US defences.

Venezuelan oil is not on the market, it will take many many years for that and US oil companies don't even want to help do that

 

[Persian Gulf]

Say what you want, but I strongly believe a US with Biden or Harris in power would've never pressured Iran like this, let alone prepare for war with Iran.

If it weren't for covid-19 and large-scale fraud in the US presidential election in 2020, all of this would've happened 4 years earlier in Trump's second term. Biden for Iran was 4 years of pure luck to recover and strengthen our position that was not appreciated and capitalized by the idiots in power.

large scale voter fraud in 2020 ? seriously lol

Trump alleged this in many states and he lost every single case and many people (including Fox News) had to pay huge damages

 

[VCheng]

he is many things, but he is not afraid of death

So is he blurring the same line like Mohsen Fakhrizadeh that you mention here, or is this different?

the emphasis on the virtues of martyrdom can unfortunately blur the line between bravery and stupidity in some cases.

 

[Persian Gulf]

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We are back on. This drama is absurd and tiring.

Barak is an puppet used by Israel

 

[Shags101]

Trump wants a third term and has mid terms in November, he doesn't want a long war

Iran is not at peak strength but certainly not at the lowest level since 1988, that is ridiculous. in 1998 what weapons did Iran have to hit back at the US? compared to now with General McKenzie claiming a few years ago that Iran has achieved overmatch relative to US defences.

Venezuelan oil is not on the market, it will take many many years for that and US oil companies don't even want to help do that

100 billion dollars of investment to rebuild Venezuelas oil industry from bottom to top with no guarantees what will happen when trump leaves office

 

[Eşbah]

Trump on Iran:

Here’s the deal: if they try again, and I let them know that if they do, we’re going to send them right back and do the job again.

They tried to go back to the site. They couldn’t even get near it. There was total obliteration.

They were thinking about starting a new site in a different part of the country.

We found out about it. I said, “If you do that, we’re going to do very bad things to you.”

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What is he talking about?

 

[lightning f57]

Iran will not relinquish its missiles, nor its proxies, and will not abandon its right to a civil nuclear program. We know that, the Americans know that.

Then what is the objective of the meeting on Friday if we are all aware that the unavoidable result will be war no matter what? What is the purpose of stalling the inevitable? Tell the US a firm "No" and go to war? Why is Tehran waiting for the US to finish its military build-up? I do not understand the logic of Iran's behaviour unless they still secretly hope that Washington will back down last minute?

Trump on Iran:

Here’s the deal: if they try again, and I let them know that if they do, we’re going to send them right back and do the job again.

They tried to go back to the site. They couldn’t even get near it. There was total obliteration.

They were thinking about starting a new site in a different part of the country.

We found out about it. I said, “If you do that, we’re going to do very bad things to you.”

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What is he talking about?

Im wondering too if both sides are stalling what is it for, Iran getting more goodies from Russia, China soon? US sending another CBG?

Or is Iranian leaders showing spine and readying themselves for any eventuality.

On trump is 95% bravado and lies 5% some resemblance if truth.