Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

StrategicBear said:
Iran's BM must stay with Iran until the end of the world.

Israel can't do shit about it, and if anyone tries to use WMD on Iran then Iran can justifiably retaliate with WMD of her own. Don't give in to bullies but destroy them completely so they won't exist anymore to bully anyone ever again.
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Missile program is too deeply entrenched so it cant go anywhere. Also unlike IAEA (itself a western spy arm) there is no watchdog that can determine the framework to curb the missile program. Last time they tried, IRGC simply wrote larger warheads for same missiles to show reduced ranges. ICBM program got disguised as TEL-ed tristaged SLVs that can deploy Re-Entry Vehicles if need be.
 
hasn2009 said:
If I was Iran, I would stay 1000s of miles clear from trusting Turkey in this, Turkey would happily make Syria out of Iran where they will carve pieces out of Iran for themselves and for Israel like they happily did with Syria, and would happily supply Iran's oil to Israel like they are doing right now by fulfilling 40% of Israel's oil needs.
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Good words. They tried that for 400 years. Ate shit by hands of us Azeri Torks everytime. Lol Same Ottoman that enslaved every type of Maghrebi, Levant, Arab, Hejazi or whatever could not move an inch into Iran. Many times we captured their lands in Eastern Anatolia as well but lost it only because of internal BS. We are our own worst enemies.
 
Hassan Al-Somal said:
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Not sure if it is true or not but this is the major reason for Standoff between US and Iran. US does not care about Iranian nukes, missiles or whatever, thats Israeli headache after 12 day war esp. US solely does not want RMB to spread in Iranian connected markets against Iranian oil freely flowing to China (upto ~20% of Chinese consumption). They previously tried to lure in IRI through Saudis (US basically) investment in hydrocarbon sector. IRI under Raisi refused that, then him and his FM died and tensions with US and Israel rose to sky.

I am feeling this Araghchi+Larijani nexus may offer opening some proportion of Oil to USD.
 
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Emirzad said:
Not sure if it is true or not but this is the major reason for Standoff between US and Iran. US does not care about Iranian nukes, missiles or whatever, thats Israeli headache after 12 day war esp. US solely does not want RMB to spread in Iranian connected markets against Iranian oil freely flowing to China (upto ~20% of Chinese consumption). They previously tried to lure in IRI through Saudis (US basically) investment in hydrocarbon sector. IRI under Raisi refused that, then him and his FM died and tensions with US and Israel rose to sky.

I am feeling this Araghchi+Larijani nexus may offer opening some proportion of Oil to USD.
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Why? I thought the plot is Iran unites with China(BRICS) to replace the USD with RMB?

My worldview has always been about BRICS replacing the USA because I don't like Trump and the racist White Men ruling USA, so from my perspective I'd like to see the USA fall/collapse or descend into Civil War as payback for all the bombs they supplied to Israel killing many Palestinians and all the civvies their military killed since long ago.
 
Eşbah said:
JD Vance on Iran:

The person who makes the decisions in Iran is the Supreme Leader. The President doesn't really matter.

The Foreign Minister seems to talk to the Supreme Leader and that's mainly the person that we've communicated with.

But it's a very weird country to conduct diplomacy with when you can't even talk to the person who's in charge of the country.

Trump can pick up the phone and call Putin. He can pick up the phone and call Xi. Even countries that we have very hostile relations with.

It is bizarre that we can't just talk to the actual leadership of Iran. It really makes diplomacy very difficult.

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Khamenei refuses to talk and negotiate with the US directly. JD Vance is very obviously p'ssed.

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The Americans want to kill or capture the Supreme Leader. To do that, they need to build up a map of all his movements, and to know he is at specific locations as part of the talks to be able to target him. Iran is too wise to this.

If Trump really wants to talk to the Supreme Leader, then maybe he should visit Tehran ? He went to North Korea ?
 
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Ali_Baba said:
The Americans want to kill or capture the Supreme Leader. To do that, they need to build up a map of all his movements, and to know he is at specific locations as part of the talks to be able to target him. Iran is too wise to this.

If Trump really wants to talk to the Supreme Leader, then maybe he should visit Tehran ? He went to North Korea ?
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Trump is crazy but is he crazy enough to kill or even worse attempt to humiliate him on live television as he did with maduro sometimes the Iranians talk big and don’t act sometimes they do all of tp3 prove they can act when need be but I think if they did anything to him it would be just F it all hell would break loose and it wouldn’t stop until millions dead all over the world
 
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