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hasssanali8998 said:
su 57 and good in the same sentence ,and they will probably get the export version
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but lets stay on topic or fatman will ban us
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There is no greater danger than underestimating your opponent.

SU57 can be base for Indian 5th Gen. It can bring a lot to their table other than just a jet.
 
onlinpunit said:
Rafale has its own importance.
Heavy : SU 30 MKI+ AMCA/ SU 57
Mid : Rafael to replace/supplement Mig 29 and Mirage .
Light : Tejas MK1A + MK2
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Buy 2-3 more Rafale squadrons off the shelf, remaining 31 for Navy as well and close the chapter.

No point sabotaging LCA Mk2 and AMCA.
 
Hussain said:
The Russians were offering "Made In India", so the idea might be to get their hands on whatever tech they can.
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True, but ideas and reality are two different things. After 5 years and under immense difficulty Russia only has 1 Sqd of SU-57 in service. The same constraints will be on India, and on top of all that HAL will be involved. This will make the Tejas production line look a McDonalds drive through in terms of efficiency
 
CallSignMaverick said:
Buy 2-3 more Rafale squadrons off the shelf, remaining 31 for Navy as well and close the chapter.

No point sabotaging LCA Mk2 and AMCA.
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We need hom grown engine for any meaningful development of AMCA..As of now only collaboration with Safran can give us this type of Engine.
 
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Yasser76 said:
From "done deal" to 56th round of "clearance"....
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There is a whole process that goes before signing of large contracts, essentially a formality. Defence Secretary cleared it, then it will got to DAC and then finally to CCS. So yes, more or less done deal.
 
CallSignMaverick said:
There is a whole process that goes before signing of large contracts, essentially a formality. Defence Secretary cleared it, then it will got to DAC and then finally to CCS. So yes, more or less done deal.
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Not really, there have been many instances of deals being "approved" that never came to much.

2 extra Phalcon AEWs? That was a "done deal"

6 A330 MRTT? That was a "done deal"

3 Extra Scorpene subs was a "done deal"

It is just constant noise and BS that tries to make activity pass for actual progress as Indias fighter and sub fleets get older and older.
 
Yasser76 said:
Not really, there have been many instances of deals being "approved" that never came to much.

2 extra Phalcon AEWs? That was a "done deal"

6 A330 MRTT? That was a "done deal"

3 Extra Scorpene subs was a "done deal"

It is just constant noise and BS that tries to make activity pass for actual progress as Indias fighter and sub fleets get older and older.
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@Yasser76 It's all your fault.

You need to understand, some Indians have vedic technology and living in the 4th dimension of time, where all moments—past, present, and future—exist simultaneously within a fixed, four-dimensional spacetime structure.
 
Yasser76 said:
Not really, there have been many instances of deals being "approved" that never came to much.

2 extra Phalcon AEWs? That was a "done deal"

6 A330 MRTT? That was a "done deal"

3 Extra Scorpene subs was a "done deal"

It is just constant noise and BS that tries to make activity pass for actual progress as Indias fighter and sub fleets get older and older.
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Done deal here indicates likelyhood, a lot of approved projects never move forwards as they are deemed irrelevant. Phalcon was shelved for Netra project. A330 shelved for HAL-IAI Boeing 767 modified tankers, and Scorpenes might be shelved in favour of P76 and P77.

Some doesn't mean most.
 
CallSignMaverick said:
Done deal here indicates likelyhood, a lot of approved projects never move forwards as they are deemed irrelevant. Phalcon was shelved for Netra project. A330 shelved for HAL-IAI Boeing 767 modified tankers, and Scorpenes might be shelved in favour of P76 and P77.

Some doesn't mean most.
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Exactly, so worth waiting till something is signed as opposed to another round of meaningless approvals designed to show the public things are moving when they are actually not.

Right now I would say the deal has a 30% chance of happening. Till contract signature everything else is BS.

Pakistan government can "approve" a 200 aircraft F-35 buy in theory.
 
SiliconBit (silicon0000) said:
There is no greater danger than underestimating your opponent.

SU57 can be base for Indian 5th Gen. It can bring a lot to their table other than just a jet.
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I think Su-57 is a superb fighter aircraft. There's far too much anti-Russian propaganda that portrays it as some souped up Su-35.

If India were to acquire it, it'll be a huge threat against Pakistan even if the PAF acquired J-35.
 
Yasser76 said:
Right now I would say the deal has a 30% chance of happening. Till contract signature everything else is BS.

Pakistan government can "approve" a 200 aircraft F-35 buy in theory.
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You are right as well as dead wrong.

First part is right. Anything can happen from here. Infact I would rate the chances at even lower than 30%.

Second part is dead wrong. Approving 200 x J35 = atleast 14-17 Billion USD. Read it again and you might laugh it off yourself. You know the reason too.
 
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