Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[LX1111]

Your entire post is stupid. Assad is gone from Syria for a long time now. War happened after that. Before IRGC had bases in Syria and so did Russia.

Now that there are no Iranian bases, the IAF can fly freely over Syria.

Also Israeli AF relies on long ranged SOWs/LACMs/ALBMs, they do not need to "penetrate" anywhere. In last war thick majority strikes came from golden horizon, Sparrow, Rocks ALBMs, delilah LACMs, Ice breaker SOW/LACM from over Iraq.

These Israeli missiles aren't particularly advanced in terms of technology; a competent air defense system could easily intercept them. And let's not forget that many of the attack videos released by Israel show F-15s carrying JDAM and Paveway bombs.

 

[LX1111]

Even if we had 50 bavar-373 + S-400s result would have been same, because no body can stop these attack weapons like Israel could not stop IRGCAF's missiles. Rest attacks came from PGMs from drones or internal terrorism comprising of quadcopters, ATGMs.

The reason Iran did not intercept these Israeli missiles is simple: Iran's radar and air defense missiles are outdated.

Iran copied a bunch of old Russian P-18 radars, and the Iranians probably really believed the Russians' boasts about their anti-stealth capabilities.
You can see the gap between them by looking at China's actual anti-stealth radar.


As for Iran's air defense system, it's laughable. Iran's prized Bavar-373 missile system is only in service with one system to date.
Because Iran simply doesn't have the capability to produce a qualified X-band radar, and currently only one set of this radar has been produced.Moreover, it was destroyed in the War.

As for those four S300PMU2 systems, they were too old and had already been destroyed by the F-35.

 

[wangdefa]

I think the Iranian people and the government should agree on whether to continue negotiations at the negotiating table or to address the military challenge of the United States. I see a confusing message in this thread, and I don't see a unified core opinion at all. I'm not talking about people from other countries. It's a message that the Iranians themselves do not have a unified voice. So I can't understand that, in the face of the threat from the United States and Israel, your decision is to negotiate? Civil war? Or facing challenges?

 

[tower9]

I wonder what is going on in Tel-Aviv nowadays. They're constantly in the news with Gaza and Epstein. Their crown jewel of an organization AIPAC is getting defeated in the US regional races. They're economy is in the toilet...They're borrowing money to keep afloat. We just heard their strongest advocate in the House of Lords...Just resigned, which may eventually bring down the Starmer government. I mean, from close up it looks like theyre winning battles, but they're losing the war.

How exactly is AIPAC being defeated?

 

[PK781]

if iran is attacked, it should at the bare minimum, ensure that the gulfies are reduced to a fucking rubble. No Exceptions
Flatten the so-called uae/qatar/israel/etc anyone who's aiding the US and continues to do so. Make it extremely costly for everyone in the entire region.

Fucking Light it all up!!

 

[VCheng]

if iran is attacked, it should at the bare minimum, ensure that the gulfies are reduced to a fucking rubble. No Exceptions
Flatten the so-called uae/qatar/israel/etc anyone who's aiding the US and continues to do so. Make it extremely costly for everyone in the entire region.

Fucking Light it all up!!

Is Iran actually able to do any of what you would like above?

 

[tsunset]

No one wants a foreign pedophile with a big nose dictate people what government should be good for them and pillaging oil with -95% discounts with pipelines of free oil and gas directly to their colonies and forward bases

 

[925boy]

Iran's greatest shield should've been a modern air force and IADS along with large number of drones and missiles to enable asymmetric warfare, not a tin-pot blood thirsty dictator that escaped after 11 days and receiving tens of billions of dollars from us.

US and israel have modern airforce and still havent won any serious war in over 20 years ,so no, air forces are flashy and do short term damage but in the long run they dont guarantee military victories where they count. Let's go through some scenarios!!

1. US modern airforce vs houthis- US lost
2. Israeli modern airforce vs Iran in mid 2025- Israel didnt win.

3. US modern airforce vs Iran in modern 2025- US didnt win(proof? It has to prepare a much larger armada to go for round 2)

4.US modern airforce vs Taliban, US loss!

5. US modern airforce vs Iraqi insurgents, US didnt win.

6. Israel modern airforce vs hezbollah in 2006 - loss!

You speak confidently about western airforce but based in facts on the ground, they r overrated and have drained their nations ALSO OF precious resources their countries and citizens needed.

Gfoh with being a volunteer parrot for cowardly western countries that act like they are experts and ready for clashes but meanwhile, they r really scared, that's why the lasttime we saw their boots on tje ground perform anywhere close to decent was almost 10 yrs ago .

 

[kastor ville]

How exactly is AIPAC being defeated?

This was the first test after the Mamdani loss....they lost again

AIPAC fails its first test in the midterms

Tom Malinowski and Analilia Mejia are in a dead heat in a NJ election AIPAC spent millions on to elect a candidate they saw as more pro-Israel.

forward.com

 

[kastor ville]

Don't be ridiculous. Israel is the core of US Middle East policy. As long as the US doesn't collapse, Israel cannot fail. The Israeli Air Force still has the capability and willingness to launch large-scale long-range strikes against Tehran. Now it's just waiting for Trump's order.
The only thing Iran can do now is to deploy as many air defense missiles and radars as possible, and to purchase radars from Russia or China at all costs.

I think you should stick to Sino-Russian politics...you're obviously out of your depth.

 

[kastor ville]

Unfortunately, there are those on this forum who openly wish for Iran's demise.
For years, they have clamored for Iran to cease supporting Syria and Lebanon.
I now suspect this is not merely ignorance, but a deliberate desire to see Iran left defenseless and vulnerable to invasion.

Syria was clearly Iran's greatest shield.
The fact that reformists and their supporters have long insisted on abandoning Syria... well, that's what it means.

Really? Iran bombed the crap out of Haifa and Tel-Aviv....that was without anyone's help. How many countries participated shooting down?Iranian missiles and projectiles that were going towards israel?

 

[kastor ville]

Anyone notice how a good economy and a modern military turns people into supremacists? First we had England, then Germans, after WWII we had the Americans and the Russians...now, China and India want to make their presence known.
Muslims need to unite or face extinction.

 

[Liquidator]

Anyone notice how a good economy and a modern military turns people into supremacists? First we had England, then Germans, after WWII we had the Americans and the Russians...now, China and India want to make their presence known.
Muslims need to unite or face extinction.

There's a difference between morality and high scientific achievement.

People often confuse the two...of course, you can have both and that is the ideal.

 

[mulj]

Anyone notice how a good economy and a modern military turns people into supremacists? First we had England, then Germans, after WWII we had the Americans and the Russians...now, China and India want to make their presence known.
Muslims need to unite or face extinction.

Glad you noticed, for those mentioned it does not matter for them if you are sunni, shia, practicing or no practicing muslim, are you for sharia law or not or even if you are atheist with muslim background, it is enough for them that your dick is circumcized to look on you with reservation and disdain.
We have dark humor here in bosnia which is basically truth when serbs killed our people they did not asked if you went to mosque or not, they labeled us just by name.

 

[PK781]

Is Iran actually able to do any of what you would like above?

sadly, i don't think so.