Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[ChineseTiger1986]

That why both Russia and China didn't let IR to armed with nukes ....

The NK nuclear program was given by Russia, and China was against it.

China wouldn't be against Iran to obtain nuclear weapons same as NK.

It was your liberal faction who got bribed by the US and Israel who caused you to lose the opportunity to obtain the nuclear weapons in the impeccable timing.

 

[ety]

That why both Russia and China didn't let IR to armed with nukes ....

As a signatory to Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, Chinese state can't openly and officially support Iran to acquire nukes, so maybe officially true with Russia. But, the Chinese public sentiment is sympathetic for Iran to possess nukes to deter US/Israel. Iran might be better had it chosen the route of North Korea in developing nukes, but that's a risk the Iranian gov and nation would have been willing to take.

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[Pak-Warrior]

Surrender your missiles, nuclear program, give oil to the western companies, open only fans, legalize lgbt movement, call taylor swift to have concert in teheran, bring shah back demolish some mosques and ban islam.
Then you will have not normal but great relations with west.

West only cares about its control over a regime and not really cares if a country is religious or cares about human rights etc. Those are excuses only made against any country which decides to make their own foreign policy. US never cares if a country is ultra religious or ultra modern.

Until a decade ago KSA was very ultra religious, strict religious policing, no concept of concerts etc, women can't even drive, human rights and everything could be pointed out far more aggressively than what they do with Iran but still KSA was the "ally" because US has control over its regime and foreign policy. US was super happy with KSA because it invests billions of dollars in US & purchases US weapons at many times higher price then original price. NATO countries buy same hardware at 1/5th of the cost. US govt won't even dared to point out KSA on being ultra islamists those days and they won't dare to bring democracy over there as all they care is a control over country's policies and its wealth. That's all they care.

Its a severe misconception in islamic world, that US or the west govts wants to bring liberalism into islamic world. The West would prefer a hardline islamist govt which allows its resources over a liberal & democratic one which puts its sovereignty & terms above all. The current leader of Syria is a hardline one but he is a favorite of Trump.

CIA has historically supported, armed, and trained various hardline Islamic movements and regimes, primarily as a geopolitical tool to counter communist influence during the Cold War or to oppose specific regional rivals. Bottomline is they never cared about "Taylor swift concerts", or banning mosques or anything like that. They don't give a dime to what countries do inside their own borders as long as countries are paying them in one way or another and not challenge the hegemony and status quo.

 

[hussain0216]

He's a real weird dude....very, very smart for his age, and the fker has photographic memory. But he's also a white Christian nationalist.
That kind of thinking is short term....The future of this planet won't be based on racial or religious divide....all of those walls will eventually crumble. With AI and metaverse things such as borders, race, religious affiliation won't mean much...it will all be about money and return on investment. If not, we're doomed as an species.

We are already doomed as a species the breakdown of racial, religious and cultural identity has led to a demographic crisis

The peoples that will survive this will be the ones that embrace their cultural, religious identity the most

The ones that can protect their identity, not allow it to become degraded and debauched and keep the traditional family and marriage system going will energy whilst the demographic crisis takes hold elsewhere

 

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Chief of Staff of Iranian Armed Forces Major General Abdolrahim Mousavi during 22 Bahman celebrations

 

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Rear Admiral and leading advisor to Khamenei, Ali Shamkhani seems to have made a full recovery from injuries sustained during the 12 day war with Israel

 

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Commander of IRGC Quds Force Brigadier General Esmaeil Qaani

 

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huge turnout of Iranians on 22 Bahman

 

[Michael]

If Iran goes down the whole Middle East with its oil resources will be in Israeli-US control. They’ve already taken control of Venezuela. China will be at the mercy of Netanyahu, who will show no mercy to China.

If China doesn’t step in at this point then their dreams of being a great power will be gone.

Don't spout nonsense if you don't understand. You should learn some basic common sense before making these analyses.

Let’s do a rough calculation of the potential bonanza for US-Israel in case of a war.

With all the Middle East in US-IsraelI control after a devastating war, let’s say the price of oil goes to $200/barrel. It will become profitable for US companies to invest heavily in Venezuela while at the moment it is unprofitable at the current price of $69. The biggest deposits in the world will be at US disposal. They will also control the Middle Eastern oil.

China imported 4.2 billion barrels of oil in 2025 costing them $290 billion. With the price at $200/barrel their import bill will triple to $870 billion. That will be an extra cost of $580 billion per year or almost $6 trillion in 10 years.

All those extra trillions of dollars worth of oil will be sold in US dollars, which will stabilize the US dollar. The puppet regimes will be forced to invest those petrodollars in buying US bonds at very low interest rates. That will lower US interest payments and reduce the budget deficit. Trillions will be spent by the puppets to rebuild their countries for which contracts will go to US-IsraelI companies.

There’s a lot of money to be made by the ‘Epstein Class’ from a war on Iran. Unless, the potential victims step in a try to save themselves. Everyone in the world is a potential victim because all those trillions of dollars are going to be extracted from the whole world, including US citizens in the form of high energy prices.

You should seriously learn more useful knowledge and smoke less marijuana.

 

[Michael]

USA puts herself in the corner , if she start war and take damage and can't achieve it's goal in limited time window , it's military hegemony will weaken against both Russia and China...

If the war continue more than a week ( which is more likely to happen ), USA will target civilian infrastructures to at least show force and scare others to not disobey her ...

IR won't care about Iranian people and will fight to bitter end .

If this war continue for a month , The real victor will be China and Russia...

The ultimate loser will be Iranians .


That why both Russia and China didn't let IR to armed with nukes ....

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I didn't want war with USA and I didn't want to Iran be sacrificed for sake of China and Russia , so I wanted nukes to Iran to be able have normal relationship with the west .

but even in this site the agent of Russia and china were firmly against Iran getting nukes and we're push some lunatic in Iran toward war with usa to turn Iran to karballa ( start losing battle and die-matayered- in process )

Frankly speaking, the Chinese take no position on the Iran-Israel/US issue. We are merely observers.

China does indeed have a competitive relationship with the US. But this is not a reason for China to support Iran. ------ China has a military alliance treaty with North Korea, but China does not provide military support to North Korea.

If Iran does not want Chinese military support, it's simple: just treat China as an ordinary country and don't place too much expectation on it. We also believe that the Iranians are capable of facing these issues independently.

If the Iranians hope to obtain Chinese military support, it's also simple: you need to first study the Chinese way of thinking. There's a Chinese idiom, "投名状." If our Iranian friends can deeply understand this idiom, it will be easy to obtain Chinese military support.

As for Iran's nuclear weapons issue, from an open diplomatic perspective, China certainly will not support Iran possessing nuclear weapons. In practical terms, China will not excessively oppose it. Simply put, we have no stance on this.

In our view, the Iranian military and government have never truly wanted to possess nuclear weapons. They are only pursuing nuclear weapons as a bargaining chip in negotiations with the West.

 

[Mehdipersian]

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you can keep scrolling and they all say the same thing.
Is this some troll farm out of Israel or India?

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He is Pahlavi collaborator.

 

[StrategicBear]

Currently China relies on oil not only from Iran but all Arab countries in the Middle East. What happens if after Iran falls to the USA and no obstacles left after that results in USA now telling all Arab countries and the New Iranian Regime to STOP SELLING OIL to China?

Will China finally go to war with the USA in that hypothetical future if the USA uses its Puppet Regimes in the Middle East to cease selling oil to China? Following the same path Japan took in WW2 because USA blockaded supplies/sales of critical resources to Japan?

 

[wangdefa]

Frankly speaking, the Chinese take no position on the Iran-Israel/US issue. We are merely observers.

China does indeed have a competitive relationship with the US. But this is not a reason for China to support Iran. ------ China has a military alliance treaty with North Korea, but China does not provide military support to North Korea.

If Iran does not want Chinese military support, it's simple: just treat China as an ordinary country and don't place too much expectation on it. We also believe that the Iranians are capable of facing these issues independently.

If the Iranians hope to obtain Chinese military support, it's also simple: you need to first study the Chinese way of thinking. There's a Chinese idiom, "投名状." If our Iranian friends can deeply understand this idiom, it will be easy to obtain Chinese military support.

As for Iran's nuclear weapons issue, from an open diplomatic perspective, China certainly will not support Iran possessing nuclear weapons. In practical terms, China will not excessively oppose it. Simply put, we have no stance on this.

In our view, the Iranian military and government have never truly wanted to possess nuclear weapons. They are only pursuing nuclear weapons as a bargaining chip in negotiations with the West.

Although we cannot know the true thoughts of the Iranian government, we can see from the Iranian people that their thinking is actually quite chaotic. They eagerly absorb news from various media sources, even falling into manipulated thought traps. I suggest that we only view any interpretations of Iran's policies as observers, which is why I don't want to make too many comments. We can't even discern which country their hearts belong to or whose stance they represent.

 

[wangdefa]

Currently China relies on oil not only from Iran but all Arab countries in the Middle East. What happens if after Iran falls to the USA and no obstacles left after that results in USA now telling all Arab countries and the New Iranian Regime to STOP SELLING OIL to China?

Will China finally go to war with the USA in that hypothetical future if the USA uses its Puppet Regimes in the Middle East to cease selling oil to China? Following the same path Japan took in WW2 because USA blockaded supplies/sales of critical resources to Japan?

You fall into a trap of thinking that we lack oil. In fact, we do not lack oil. We just don't want to develop it from the land. We have the money to buy it. Moreover, we are increasing energy transformation and deploying a large amount of renewable energy every year. There is no shortage of oil under our land.

 

[Michael]

Currently China relies on oil not only from Iran but all Arab countries in the Middle East. What happens if after Iran falls to the USA and no obstacles left after that results in USA now telling all Arab countries and the New Iranian Regime to STOP SELLING OIL to China?

Will China finally go to war with the USA in that hypothetical future if the USA uses its Puppet Regimes in the Middle East to cease selling oil to China? Following the same path Japan took in WW2 because USA blockaded supplies/sales of critical resources to Japan?

Stop making such pointless remarks. This isn't how you play the game of politics.

Although we cannot know the true thoughts of the Iranian government, we can see from the Iranian people that their thinking is actually quite chaotic. They eagerly absorb news from various media sources, even falling into manipulated thought traps. I suggest that we only view any interpretations of Iran's policies as observers, which is why I don't want to make too many comments. We can't even discern which country their hearts belong to or whose stance they represent.

Yes.

In this Iran-Israel/US game, China is merely an observer. We have no interest in joining it.

Many people are eager to draw China into this game. Unfortunately, they underestimate the Chinese.