Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[NationalistPKDude132]

IAF learns the wrong lessons...

in 2019 what should have learned is two things

1) PAF situation awareness , radar jamming, coordination , intelligence etc is excellent

2) PAF pilot training, tactics and leadership is world class and vastly superior to IAF they ambushed IAF and shot SU-30 and Mig 21 in less than a hour

what they fooled them selves in believing that Rafaele was the answer to their problems and hence their response was based on that ... and what we saw in May 2025...


I honestly taught they would learn their lesson in 2019 and give us a lesson in a future encounter unless we inducted fifth generation planes.

in reality they were applied stupid straight jacket tactics the response they got from PAF ...they could not handle ie 8 front line jets downed , S400 incapacitated and untold damage on their military facilities enough for Modi to approach the Americans for a off ramp

i am very surprised our enemy the IAF still is acting surprisingly arrogant


The peak of their lack of maturity was that they claimed months later to have destroyed 15-20 30 aircraft of ours and that was truly laughable more laughable was the fact was this claim was made by their ACM too!

 

[flyingorca]

The first line is a wish from PAF. No real proof exept one grounded.
It is now clear that the pic of the vertical stabilizer in a field is made using IA.

Once again sorry not to agree to the common way of thinking here.

Either you are a French who was made by Indian DNA or your are a French who was born to Indian family either way you sound like a brainwashed Indian.

Tell us exactly how the rudder is AI?

 

[flyingorca]

Seems its time to purchase glasses.
I can't do anything more for you Bro.

It seems you need both new brain and eyes.
ASRAAM has 1 brown band and 1 Yellow band which are placed close to each other where Meteor has two brown bands placed much further apart which matches with the wreckage.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

The first line is a wish from PAF. No real proof exept one grounded.
It is now clear that the pic of the vertical stabilizer in a field is made using IA.

Once again sorry not to agree to the common way of thinking here.

sorry as if hiding truth!

 

[BonPlan]

It seems you need both new brain and eyes.
ASRAAM has 1 brown band and 1 Yellow band which are placed close to each other where Meteor has two brown bands placed much further apart which matches with the wreckage.
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My answer was about a different question of yourself. for the second time.
Let's stop here.

 

[White Privilege]

I don't know how you have come to this conclusion. SAMs affect alot of variables for example DEZ, Vul and corresponding tactics.

HQ9 had a solid role to play on the night of 7th as well. Similarly, S400 was indeed a potent threat which PAF was forced to take into account and the system actually did get couple locks on our assets but luckily for us, none materialized into a Kill.

However, S400 indeed did restrict PAF's freedom until on the morning of 10th when it went offline allowing us to fly with more freedom.

And In addition, ofcourse the AD part for kinetic interceptions.

One of the objectives of this exercise was to hone the tactics against IAF's SOW capabilities. How not to let them just lob missiles from stand off ranges and get away with it - and for that, you'll need to suppress their SAM threat.

I am not talking about the 'Indian SAMS', the S-400 threat was very real, many people have said that. I would really love to be wrong and find out that our SAMS factored in significantly in enemy war plans.I am talking about the SAMS Pakistan had, and their contribution during the conflict, also our SAM doctrine. Even the longest ranged ones are pretty modest and did not score any fast jet kills. It would have been crazy to launch SAMS while our fighters were close anyway. When it came to drones, again their usage had to be curtailed due to enemy ferret/killer drones hunting the GBADS. From this point of view, out SAMS appear to be just expensive toys that not really matter in a fight that is getting increasingly long range in the coming future. In the future, Indians will increasingly operate from among civilian air traffic corridors. We will increasingly need better and better airborne radars and missiles that can seek out enemy bombers in that situation.

 

[flyingorca]

My answer was about a different question of yourself. for the second time.
Let's stop here.

Then get thr fk out of here if you are just trolling.
Rafale is just a big fat scam. Im glad the scammer "India" is getting scammed "by france". 300 million dollars planes got shot down in the sky and even Trump is using this to titty twist Modi into a better trade deal.

 

[Taimoor]

No real proof exept one grounded.

You call this grounded?

 

[Bratva]

I don't know how you have come to this conclusion. SAMs affect alot of variables for example DEZ, Vul and corresponding tactics.

HQ9 had a solid role to play on the night of 7th as well. Similarly, S400 was indeed a potent threat which PAF was forced to take into account and the system actually did get couple locks on our assets but luckily for us, none materialized into a Kill.

However, S400 indeed did restrict PAF's freedom until on the morning of 10th when it went offline allowing us to fly with more freedom.

And In addition, ofcourse the AD part for kinetic interceptions.

One of the objectives of this exercise was to hone the tactics against IAF's SOW capabilities. How not to let them just lob missiles from stand off ranges and get away with it - and for that, you'll need to suppress their SAM threat.

Indians have also busy actually getting their pack up and deploy times better. They were caught both places with S-400 locations exposed despite their “academic” ideas of rotation and dispersal.

Now they are finally trying to drill it into practice.

Always about who learns faster and has fresher memory

 

[PK781]

Guys
It doesn’t matter how many jets were shot, what matters is WHY they went down

 

[Ali_Baba]

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The " 3 billion dollars for MALE drone deal from Israel" is shocking. India should be able to manufacture MALE by now !!! The rest is debateable given the current state of India's aerospace industry.

 

[White Privilege]

You call this grounded?

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that's called barbecued....

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

My answer was about a different question of yourself. for the second time.
Let's stop here.

why do you always quote Indian tweets?!

dont any French analysts say something about IAF?!

or only you worry about IAF, bec, you are indian?!

 

[TAC]

You call this grounded?

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Well I guess it is on the ground lol

 

[PK781]

You call this grounded?

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i see it as "well-grounded" Sir
The local indians looking at it and others now know PAF toasted it very well.