Hassan Al-Somal
Elite Member
"The wars of the future are being planned here in Israel"
The start of Pax Judaica!
Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds
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"The wars of the future are being planned here in Israel"
The start of Pax Judaica!
Kyussis
Trusted Member
Even if Israel would ever agree to such a thing, who in their right mind would believe that they would stick to their word?
PK781
Trusted Member
if its taking so fucking long, then its shitty planning as always
Besides, only Allah SWT's WILL happens, nothing else.
if they wanna torch the world, they themselves will also be consumed by it
mythbuster
SpeedLimited
Is Iranian FM a fool ? Isn't he talking about cooperation in mining and energy and buying American aircrafts ?
Immortals
Elite Member
Given another week or so for the 2nd carrier to arrive, I suspect if U.S. decides to launch an attack on Iran they will do it no earlier than around the Persian New Year where many businesses are shut down and people are traveling/not working. Less collateral damage and also the possibility they try to reignite street protests to coincide with the attacks.
925boy
Elite Member
If the dragon is actually timid, then why are many countries scared of it and arming up against
like their lives depends on it? I think China uses a stealth but active presence strategy.
Mehdipersian
Trusted Member
It looks like the neocons are preparing a second option to trigger war in case there is a breakthrough in the talks: "Israel" will attack Iran, and the Americans will just have to support the "Israelis".
JUST IN: U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham Speaks about Iran in Israel
Graham: "The best answer to all the problems created by Iran is regime change."
See, he went to kiss the ring of Israel regarding Iran and LIE. Trump wants a DEAL. Netanyahu wants to ATTACK
Graham: "My presence here today is to reassure the Israeli people that there is no light or gaps between President Trump and Bibi about what to do and how to do it.
This stupid old man or woman thinks it was 20 years ago and America can do anything in the world.
I would really like to see his stupid face after their ships were sunk and Israeli cities were destroyed.
Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ
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Colony!
For once the words muffled and mumbled... hidden under jargon or smoothed over for audiences, cultivated elites... sold souls... mirage chasers, spectrum spectators, line toers, slaves or ideologues without identity...
Can sit and relax... for the mask no longer holds and they know it!
Come off of the fever dream and smell the coffee! It is back to looting resources and chasing slaves but without an appendage!
Persian Gulf
INT'L MOD
show me where Iranian FM (if you know who he is) ever said Iran will ever accept any limits on its missiles in any circumstances
Falcon29
Elite Member
What could US do differently than what Israel did besides be able to sustain longer duration of strikes ?
Same targets will be hit as previous time. Either Iran learned or didn't learn from previous Israel attack.
Iran would have to make price too high otherwise they will degrade Iran's missile capability to take away its strong cards. Maybe not in one go but they'll come back again later this year or early next year.
If price is too high to pay they may reconsider costs of such conflict and reassess their intelligence on Iran's capabilities. Effectively ensuring longer term survival of Iran's role of being the backbone/lifeline of the AoR.
SolarWarden
Trusted Member
Got this from a military guy on X but I'm also hearing an official announcement in coming days about CVN Bush.
-There are increasing signs that the aircraft carrier Bush and her battle group will also arrive in CENTCOM arena. The Bush has apparently received orders to be ready to sail for the Middle East starting in nine days from today. She is expected to arrive in the region around mid-March. Basically, the Bush's goal is to replace the Ford, which has been at sea for about eight months straight and needs a round of maintenance and rest for the crew in its home port in the US; but there will likely be a window of time of at least a week in which the Ford, Bush and Lincoln will be together in the CENTCOM area of responsibility. Then the Americans will have three aircraft carriers in the Middle East at the same time an ideal time for a powerful start to a bombing campaign with hundreds of sorties a day.-
Israel is currently attacking hezbollah "targets" which looks like to make sure they are degraded for a likely attack on Iran.
I guess in a way if it makes some folks feel better they can say that this massing of forces doesn't mean a decision has been made about striking Iran that this could be a negotiation tactic, a very expensive one, to scare Iran regime into agreeing/surrendering to US terms... as for me I believe the negotiations are just fluff/stalling tactic to deploy all the forces needed for a decapitation strike and even if Iran agreed to current US demands US would move the goal post and add a demand on Iran that they could not agree to.
-There are increasing signs that the aircraft carrier Bush and her battle group will also arrive in CENTCOM arena. The Bush has apparently received orders to be ready to sail for the Middle East starting in nine days from today. She is expected to arrive in the region around mid-March. Basically, the Bush's goal is to replace the Ford, which has been at sea for about eight months straight and needs a round of maintenance and rest for the crew in its home port in the US; but there will likely be a window of time of at least a week in which the Ford, Bush and Lincoln will be together in the CENTCOM area of responsibility. Then the Americans will have three aircraft carriers in the Middle East at the same time an ideal time for a powerful start to a bombing campaign with hundreds of sorties a day.-
Israel is currently attacking hezbollah "targets" which looks like to make sure they are degraded for a likely attack on Iran.
I guess in a way if it makes some folks feel better they can say that this massing of forces doesn't mean a decision has been made about striking Iran that this could be a negotiation tactic, a very expensive one, to scare Iran regime into agreeing/surrendering to US terms... as for me I believe the negotiations are just fluff/stalling tactic to deploy all the forces needed for a decapitation strike and even if Iran agreed to current US demands US would move the goal post and add a demand on Iran that they could not agree to.
kastor ville
Registered Member
Truth....but I think Iranians are good chess players, they know the playbook by now.....they will do some damage, I'm sure of it. The strait of Hormuz alone will cost the West very dearly....even if they don't do anything else.
I don't have a military background, but the way they will go at us, is the same way they went against Saddam.....they will try to take out comms, command and control, and air defenses using Tomahawks....then they will use F-35s to blow up the air bases to make sure nothing can take off to challenge them in the air. I'm certain they will have agents on the ground as well.....these guys will try and get close to the bases and fly in drones and quadcopters against targets.
If Iran can blunt the first 2 objectives, they can significantly stunt their victory. This will give Iran time to launch missiles against the naval assets. If Iran hits the carrier....and prevent the F35's returning it will turn their ops topsy-turvy...they will have to switch gears to plan B and that has it's own set of consequences for the US. The more chaos Iran introduces to the mix the better.....it's important that Iran has commanders with their own set of objectives...because the first few hours are crucial and Iranian forces cannot wait for central command....they need to execute plans independently.
PS: One more thing keep moving those TELs around...their entire objective roadmap depends on their intel....if their intel is upended on those TELs then Iran can fire off a few hundred missiles in the first few hours, this would be extremely detrimental to their battle plans. Iran also could use a surprise.....something like a secret missile arsenal out of the Iraqi border area.
Iraq attack's first few hours are notated below:
- Targeted Airstrikes: Initial attacks, featuring Tomahawk cruise missiles and F-117 stealth fighters, targeted specific locations where Saddam Hussein and senior staff were believed to be meeting.
- "Shock and Awe" Goal: The aerial bombardment aimed to stun Iraqi forces, neutralize air defenses, and destroy command infrastructure, often causing air raid sirens and explosions across Baghdad.
- Special Forces Action: Before the main ground assault, U.S. Special Forces were already operating in Kurdish-controlled areas in the north.
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Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ
Trusted Member
Banana peel!
A lumbering giant doesn't need to be matched in weight...
Find the peel...
Second, zion has put its whole project on the line for this... help them pack up and leave...
Enough already!
Garcia Sea
Registered Member
It is inconceivable that the United States would assemble such military forces only to withdraw without forcing Iran to surrender or launching an attack.
Withdrawing troops without achieving anything would destroy Trump's credibility, and no one would ever trust his threats again.
Therefore, unless Iran accepts surrender, an attack is inevitable. If the Iranian government fails to recognize this reality, it will lead to a catastrophe.
They lack the ability to understand the enemy's logic. They seem unable to grasp the issue of face—that a superpower would never withdraw its forces without forcing the opponent to surrender.
Withdrawing troops without achieving anything would destroy Trump's credibility, and no one would ever trust his threats again.
Therefore, unless Iran accepts surrender, an attack is inevitable. If the Iranian government fails to recognize this reality, it will lead to a catastrophe.
They lack the ability to understand the enemy's logic. They seem unable to grasp the issue of face—that a superpower would never withdraw its forces without forcing the opponent to surrender.
