Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

The "plan" is to decapitate the regime, destroy all nuclear and ballistic missile capability, IRGC security forces, Basij forces and for ground troops (anti regime Iranians) quickly take control of Tehran and country.

They are not going to destroy infrastructure that would be counterproductive of the goal US is hoping for. Power plants wont get destroyed but power will somehow magically not work until it does. Iran is infested with spooks many from Israel and US they likely know and have tabs on leadership movement and locations... will see.
 
BigMela2onin said:
The US can have a quadrillion dollars in debt and it won't matter, no one is coming to collect on that debt.
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that's not true

US treasuries have fixed maturity dates (10Y, 30Y)

and if the perceived risk of default increases then yields will increase, making it more expensive for the US to continue to fund budget deficits, creating the spiral
 
Persian Gulf said:
the US has $38.6 trillion debt

this is 136% of the US GDP. in 2000, the US debt was 59% of GDP.

the US operates a $1.9 trillion annual deficit and the debt increases by $1 trillion every 100 days

if interest rates start to outpace growth rates, it can spiral very quickly
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You must not forget that the US government is corrupt. There’s no doubt that the American foreign policy of destabilizing the Middle East and the forever war model has burdened American tax payers. But it has profited the MIC and FIC immensely. This is how they operate.
 
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For Russia Iran is the doorway to Caucasus and central Asia, for China Iran is the doorway to central Asia and furthur eastern Asia.

They're not going to let Iran fall, it is an existential crisis for both if Iran falls or shatters into small pieces."

— Former US Army officer Stanislav Krapivnik to RT's Rick Sanchez

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... Russian and Iranian naval forces will also hold joint exercises tomorrow in the Oman Sea and northern Indian Ocean.

A Russian Navy helicopter carrier has docked in Bandar Abbas to participate.

illustrative archive image.
 
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SolarWarden said:
The "plan" is to decapitate the regime, destroy all nuclear and ballistic missile capability, IRGC security forces, Basij forces and for ground troops (anti regime Iranians) quickly take control of Tehran and country.
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... and then you woke up from your latest regime change fantasy
 
mangekyo said:
It worked in Iraq, Libya and Syria. Why wouldn’t it work in Iran?
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Comparing Iran and Libya is, at best, an odd exercise. Iran has a rich history and a compelling national narrative, with a diverse population across all social classes that possesses a profound and deeply ingrained identity shaped by its geography, culture, and religion. Iran is not a failed nation.

It's clear that the US holds a military advantage, but that doesn't guarantee the success of their strategy regarding Iran.

Regardless of the intensity and ferocity of any assault, the Iranian nation will still exist.

The real question is how Iran will emerge after the war.

I am convinced that Tehran will play the long game. I can imagine that the leadership decides to response with limited but daily attacks over a long period of time. We have to understand one thing:

Although every metric may speak against Iran right now, time is most definitely working in favor of the Iranians. A prolonged, exhausting war is the only strategy that could save IRI and no matter what your personal opinion about them is, saving them means saving Iran's territorial integrity.

Regime change is a decision that has to be made by the Iranian people, not some states 1000s of miles away.
 
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For Russia Iran is the doorway to Caucasus and central Asia, for China Iran is the doorway to central Asia and furthur eastern Asia.

They're not going to let Iran fall, it is an existential crisis for both if Iran falls or shatters into small pieces."

— Former US Army officer Stanislav Krapivnik to RT's Rick Sanchez
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And Assad was Russias door to the Mediterranean.
 
Persian Gulf said:
... and then you woke up from your latest regime change fantasy
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Not my fantasy is my guess of what the US is going to do. There's a reason why the US has massed all those forces maybe it is you that is in a state of fantasy if you think the US is just going to slap Iran on the hand. This is not going to be a sneak attack on nuke sites like during 12 day war.
 
The Jews are smarter/intellectually superior to everyone in the Middle East

Middle Eastern nation builds for itself nuclear threshold status and successful missile system for long term nuclear capability

Jews demand US destroys the entire country because they're intellectually superior 🙄

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SolarWarden said:
Exactly. US owns vast majority of the debt like 80-90% of it.
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It can service the debt because it prints dollars

Once that changes, it doesnt matter who owns the debt, if the debt can't be serviced then the dollar enters free fall, Inflation goes crazy and the economy grinds to a halt

Already you are seeing the U.S act irrationally because other countries are trying to pull away

It's happening in front of you

One of the reasons the U.S is acting like a pirate with Venezuela, or Iran or Greenland etc is because of the resources there if it can control resources then it stave off the inevitable,

It won't



Someone (Jews and friends) are guiding the U.S into a pit and it's the U.S people who will be left with the consequences
 
Persian Gulf said:
that's not true

US treasuries have fixed maturity dates (10Y, 30Y)

and if the perceived risk of default increases then yields will increase, making it more expensive for the US to continue to fund budget deficits, creating the spiral
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As long as those treasury holders accept their payments in USD, it doesn't matter. The US Treasury can print as many USD as it needs and can continue to do so as long as it remains the world reserve currency and is backed by US bombs and bullets.

Every year Congress raises the debt ceiling and USD treasuries are not viewed as any more risky of an investment. If US debt begins to matter then the US has already fallen as a global power first.
 
Falcon29 said:
The Jews are smarter/intellectually superior to everyone in the Middle East

Middle Eastern nation builds for itself nuclear threshold status and successful missile system for long term nuclear capability

Jews demand US destroys the entire country because they're intellectually superior 🙄

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Jews are masters of mind games. They literally have "debates" with god on how to circumvent his laws. They just the best Goyim (USA) to fight their middle eastern wars since 2001
 
Whatever happens, if this war breaks out one thing is for certain

Iran will take damage, some of it will be significant


Iran will need to absorb this and remain standing

Iran isn't a small state
It has a great history

It's not like small states Iraq, Libya etc with limited population and little offensive options



Regardless of what resources the U.S building up, ultimately for Iran remaining standing is the victory

It's no different to Vietnam or Korea or the Taliban, the U.S is ground down and ends up spending billions trillions in a conflict thats not in its interest



It's the Jews who benefit, Iran and U.S suffer and Israel sits on the side and has its enemies attacked


So whatever happens, it will be painful for iran but if iran can walk away with it's resources and military capabilities intact it can come back, because Iran is a state of the middle east, the U.S isnt
 
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