Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Maybe things will start in 10hrs? Best not to take what the orange clown says at face value.

well said, instead of finding out, what were the motives of Epstein, he is busy in diverting attention.

in other words, busy saving his A**

 

[SiliconBit (silicon0000)]

In the first hour of war, Iran must immediately :

1. Target all USN ships
2. Fire SRBMs at all US bases in the Middle East.
3. Khoramshahr-4 to wipe out strategic sites in Israel in a concentrated salvo with Fattah Hypersonics.
4. Saturate Diego Garcia with 300-500 of those newer 4000km-range drones
5. If China and Russia agree/allows, mine heavily the entrance to Hormuz, splitting Iranian Naval operations into 2 zones east and west of the heavily-mined chokepoint
6. Message Arab nations that if they join the war or target Iranian oil facilities, Iranian missiles will destroy their oil refineries/storage tanks too
7. Send Special Forces to Iraq and other Arab nations to do infiltration attacks on US bases or assets accompanied with short quadcopter drones/drones with wire to prevent jamming like the Ukrainians often use.
8. Ghadir subs goes on happy hunting for any USN underwater subs in the shallow waters of the Persian Gulf.
9. ASBMs and Swarm UUV Drones sinks a USN Aircraft Carrier.
10. Pro-IRI Iranian Civillians(NON-IRGC AND NON-MILITARY) holds massive celebrations in Tehran if carrier sank under full media coverage, to further demoralize the foes and humiliate Trump.

Point 7 is basically a pre-war thing but very important.

11. Brutal execution of Traitors and Traitors who are already captured should be publicly executed within the first hour of war and make them example.

12. Use dirty bomb against Israel as soon as regime is start loosing it's grip. Use it before you loose it.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

Epstein files have proven that the American people are not even bothered to rise up when American Children are Trafficked, Raped and ritualistically murdered by their Baal worshipping Zionist "elites".

Americans are stress tested every single day... they're financially maxed out, tired and mentally drained.
They can hardly be bothered with... no one wants to know or hear the pain of the other... there is no appetite, appreciation or heart.
"A common Americanism is
"How you doin'?
Who cares... no one listens anyway!"

Which brings me to one more reason in urgency for this attack... it is already becoming a major financial concern... the one big beautiful bill raised the debt ceiling to $41~ trillion... a number approaching fast... besides needing continuing resolutions to keep the government funded.

My guess is this aggression would take US past the tipping point very fast. One last hurrah for zion before the lights go dark... or a reset is implemented curbing future posture. It also sets well with his fortress North America donroe mocktrin!
This scenario things sit well with his Cuban, Canadian and Greenland gambits! Something only true aggression back home towards every neighbor to maintain regional primacy by force... without any financial muscle.

So Iran has its task cutout... stretch it as far out ... because orange is sitting on a very short fuse and zion knows it!

 

[Cash gk]

When I entered the number, I missed the word "万." The actual amount is 1.37 million barrels.

Chinese national statistics show that total imports from Malaysia are approximately 1.37 million barrels per day. This represents the total volume of crude oil exported to China from Malaysia, Iran, and Venezuela combined. You can estimate Iran's share of this figure as you see fit.

If Iran were to fall and its oil came under American control, as happened in Venezuela, China would be in a difficult situation. They would rely heavily on Russia for oil and have little choice but to defend Iran to maintain access.Let's suppose if Iranians are able to destroy one or two carrier groups, it will be a Big dent to Americans forces as well.

 

[Immortals]

Maybe things will start in 10hrs? Best not to take what the orange clown says at face value.

If I recall correctly before the June war he gave 2 weeks notice and then attacked on the 3rd day.

The decision has already been made by Trump one way or another. Either a “last minute” deal will be signed or it will be war. That’s basically Trump’s trademark.

 

[Falcon29]

They are ramping up the threats

I agree with @Immortals we may be looking at an attack starting tonight or this weekend, or even weekdays next week.

Don't trust everything Israeli though. But I'm wondering why mediators are silent now. If we don't hear anything from Turkey/Oman/Qatar then that's not a good sign .

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[tsunset]

They are ramping up the threats

I agree with @Immortals we may be looking at an attack starting tonight or this weekend, or even weekdays next week.

Don't trust everything Israeli though. But I'm wondering why mediators are silent now. If we don't hear anything from Turkey/Oman/Qatar then that's not a good sign .

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Zionist puke right there

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

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[Immortals]

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Whatever is leaking is the exact opposite of US battle plans.

If Trump orders a strike he is going to go big and brag to the world, which means the biggest air strikes on a country since Vietnam.

The initial Iranian deaths in the first 48 hours could exceed 10,000 lives. Hitting Iranian security apparatus, barracks, military bases, and leadership centers. Then expanding to power generation plants and energy sites.

The goal would be complete capitulation via massive [aerial] destruction.

Putin may have an incentive to help Iran
covertly and payback the US for helping Ukraine. This is Putin’s chance to get even without providing any overt support.

Iranian leadership is not in the mood to negotiate and accept Trump’s Surrender Terms.

 

[CrniLabud]

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[hussain0216]

What legacy? He will go down as one of the worst leaders in all human history. He sank Iran's economy, throw away all regional influence, banned nukes, and curtailed missile development in exchange for the most worthless currency on earth and direct war on Iran.

Iran is under attack

Up until about 2012, Iran was doing reasonably well, this was until the west imposed harsh sanctions and have been attempting to degrade and destroy Iran and it's economy

You are at war and you blaming your own country and leadership for not bowling and trying to fight back

 

[Falcon29]

Trump creating off ramp for himself to get Israel off his back ?

But what stops them from coming back later, ripping up agreement and making a new demand, again?

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[ShapurII]

The initial Iranian deaths in the first 48 hours could exceed 10,000 lives.

I'm afraid that's likely to happen and it will be tragic.
It will most certainly lead to the collapse of our healthcare system.

Our hospitals cannot handle tens of thousands of injured people in a few days.

 

[Nuffle]

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Some thoughts on the current situation with Iran:1. Deployment prior to this week was, as I pointed out at the time, consistent with a show of force to underline a negotiating position rather than a serious operation. Although that has begun to change, US aerial forces in the Middle East remain inferior in strength to the Israeli Air Force that quickly ran out of steam in combat last year. Any air campaign would not be a step-change from that of the Twelve Days' War.2. The departure of huge numbers of tankers to the Middle East, without concomitant massive fighter deployments, indicates that the USAF intends to base its strike aircraft out of the easy range of Iranian short-range missiles on the other side of the Middle East or even farther afield in Cyprus, Diego Garcia, etc. This will dramatically curtail sortie generation compared to aircraft flying out of Al Udied in Qatar and other bases on the Gulf - established for exactly this confrontation but now perfectly useless given the number of short-range missiles the Iranians have pointed at them.3. USN forces in the region have a realistic total throw-weight of 300 to 400 badly out of date Tomahawk missiles, which is grossly inadequate for a sustained strike campaign against Iran. Recall that the USN fired almost eighty in a single strike against Syrian WMD targets a decade ago and most were shot down. The USN task force realistically has two or three missile salvos against defended point targets before its magazines run dry.4. Iranian offensive and defensive capabilities are formidable and have been overtly bolstered by the Chinese in recent weeks. Any attacks on Iranian soil will need to be - as in the Twelve Days' War - conducted from a limited pool of standoff munitions. The Israelis, who are expected to join any strikes, certainly have not replenished their own stockpiles. This dramatically curtails the combat endurance of the coalition forces.5. The Chinese and Russians are feeding intelligence to Iran. This likely allowed them to stymie a US bomber strike last month prior to latest force buildup. The Iranians can be expected to have an excellent picture of US and Israeli moves at the tactical level.6. In the aftermath of the Twelve Days' War and the insurrection in Iran last month, Mossad's attack network is likely a spent force and cannot be expected to contribute meaningfully to the war effort.7. Iran retains significant proxy capability across the region. Iranian proxies in Iraq and Yemen are practically untouched. Hezbollah in Lebanon sat out the Twelve Days' War but can be expected to join in a regional Götterdämmerung. 8. No significant US ground forces have deployed, and the Iranians killed or arrested all of their compradors two weeks ago. Ergo, there is no route to actual regime change in Iran. There's no Delcy Rodriguez and Vladimir Padrino interested in a coup d'etat by proxy and able to elaborately set conditions for it to happen.9. US facilities in the Gulf and the VERY vulnerable US embassy in Iraq (and the somewhat less vulnerable US embassy in Beirut) remain un-evacuated at this time. Evacuation of those facilities is a short-notice indicator of war - as we saw last month when bombers were likely airborne before being called off. 10. The TACO trade is real. Trump talks a big game until the markets start to believe him, whereupon he reliably beats a hasty retreat and pivots to a new distraction from the Epstein Files. The moral hazard here is that Trump has done this so many times that by this point global markets don't actually take him seriously and so they're reacting late and weak to what are objectively very concerning developments. With that said oil prices are - finally - starting to rise.US deployments to the Middle East thus far are to give Trump a credible military option if he decides to use force against Iran - prior deployments were non-credible and the Iranians would have taken them as such - but talk that war is necessarily imminent or that this force is actually adequate to the absolutely colossal task at hand (Iran is a country of 90 million and a geographic fortress) is irresponsible. As ever, use strict informational hygiene and consider source bias and attempts to box in US decision-making through planted reporting from controlled outlets and journalists. Netanyahu desperately wants a war (fought by the US on his behalf, of course) but Trump probably wants a deal - and it's noteworthy that Iranian reports suggest one may be developing.

A completely optimistic scenario for Iran.

 

[Persian Gulf]

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Unconfirmed

no, they are referring to the Houthi chief of staff, which they killed several months ago, along with half the civilian government