Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[FarhanSiddiqui]

Each day child molester Trump tries to change the subject from Epstein files. Now again he claims that Pakistan shot down 11 Indian fighters.

Trump now claims 11 ‘expensive’ jets were shot down during India-Pakistan conflict - The Tribune

I was going to put 200% tariffs on India and Pakistan, says the United States President Donald Trump.

www.tribuneindia.com

 

[Yasser76]

If it was 11 destroyed it goes a long long way into explaining the rush for training with Pakistan and interest in JF-17. Since May last year think we have signed agreements for training with around 12-14 air forces. Unprecedented and on top of any JF-17 sales that may happen.

At a senior level air forces will have access to the number India really lost.

 

[AeronautIR]

Hope our leasership ready for next round. it would be more swift and brutal.

In my humble opinion, our problem is not military capability but economy.

 

[falcon34]

If it was 11 destroyed it goes a long long way into explaining the rush for training with Pakistan and interest in JF-17. Since May last year think we have signed agreements for training with around 12-14 air forces. Unprecedented and on top of any JF-17 sales that may happen.

At a senior level air forces will have access to the number India really lost.

According to the civilian sources, don't know anyone in the military the news is India lost around 14-17 jets 8-10 hits and 6-4 written off, I've discussed that here before, never believed 'em but trumps been credibility here. According to them 3 were shot down on the 10th, no big clash over punjab, most of the aircraft were shot down in IOK.
If all this is true and as trump is going he's actually validating it all.
@AeronautIR why do you think PAF downplayed the numbers of kills.

 

[Corax]

I would have though if an aircraft is damaged but can fly back to base it should be able to make it flyable again? I remember the PAF essentially rebuilt a Viper after a mishap with ordnance, it was in pretty bad shape, and also rebuilding one of the Saab Erieyes after the terrorist attack.

 

[r3alist]

He said expensive jets

 

[NationalistPKDude132]

He said expensive jets

guess which one is 150 million....

 

[AeronautIR]

According to the civilian sources, don't know anyone in the military the news is India lost around 14-17 jets 8-10 hits and 6-4 written off, I've discussed that here before, never believed 'em but trumps been credibility here. According to them 3 were shot down on the 10th, no big clash over punjab, most of the aircraft were shot down in IOK.
If all this is true and as trump is going he's actually validating it all.
@AeronautIR why do you think PAF downplayed the numbers of kills.

I think only those kills were claimed by PAF that are 100% sure. There maybe other that are probable but without strong evidence, it is better not to claim them.

 

[TallGuy]

Do you really think that Trump gets CIA report and updates even today about May conflict so that he keeps changing the destroyed aircraft numbers?

he got the figure from day one, its he who started using it as leverage.

 

[جوبا]

Do you really think that Trump gets CIA report and updates even today about May conflict so that he keeps changing the destroyed aircraft numbers?

well according to this old news he isnt getting any briefs, maybe he keeps rereading the old one on his desk and assumes its new

Trump has sat for only 12 ‘daily’ intelligence briefings since taking office

The scarcity of the President’s Daily Briefings comes as he pursues high-stakes diplomacy with America’s friends and foes.

www.politico.com

 

[rafale]

It isnt 11 - is going to keep up numbers his dementia remembers.
his first conference on that was the most accurate.
Tomorrow if he hits 20 it will be that.

Its likely 5 confirmed with visual evidence. The rest are claims.

I don't think this is dementia.....it definitely isn't that.....

It would have been very simple to prove Trump wrong or that he has dementia if IAF would have come out clean with its own losses.......clearly they haven't.....and they don't want to because the real result was rather far more embarrassing than the shot down BS 001 tail photo that is now unequivocally spread over the internet.

OSINT being only able to get 4 photos from the actual crash sites means that bhindians were very successful at hiding and blacking out Internet over Kashmir where most of the packages fell or were damaged. That's their only saving grace, but of course, internally IAF knows how many they lost.

Remember part of off ramp was that Pakistan would stop strutting around......ISPR or PAF never gave a 3rd or 4th briefing again....even though May 10 attacks on Pakistan happened.

It only points to that IAF lost more than 7-8 jets claimed.............even if they were partially damaged and later written off.

 

[rafale]

According to the civilian sources, don't know anyone in the military the news is India lost around 14-17 jets 8-10 hits and 6-4 written off, I've discussed that here before, never believed 'em but trumps been credibility here. According to them 3 were shot down on the 10th, no big clash over punjab, most of the aircraft were shot down in IOK.
If all this is true and as trump is going he's actually validating it all.
@AeronautIR why do you think PAF downplayed the numbers of kills.

It was one of the off ramps......that Pakistan would stop strutting around what thrashing the bhindians got...........off ramp was to give these pieces of shit face saving........you think Modi is gonna survive if Pakistan displays full fledged reconnaissance highlighting 14 jets shot down or damaged?

Maybe Pakistan will find it hard to confirm how many rafales or other jets were damaged and later written off beyond repair...........but CIA won't. You can bet they have accurate count on health and status of each jet in IAF inventory from that night.

If Pakis can get Indians working around airbases and brahmos factory to spit up information in exchange for some nudes.....imagine what CIA can do with the one eyed dajjali dollar...........

 

[NationalistPKDude132]

It was one of the off ramps......that Pakistan would stop strutting around what thrashing the bhindians got...........off ramp was to give these pieces of shit face saving........you think Modi is gonna survive if Pakistan displays full fledged reconnaissance highlighting 14 jets shot down or damaged?

Maybe Pakistan will find it hard to confirm how many rafales or other jets were damaged and later written off beyond repair...........but CIA won't. You can bet they have accurate count on health and status of each jet in IAF inventory from that night.

If Pakis can get Indians working around airbases and brahmos factory to spit up information in exchange for some nudes.....imagine what CIA can do with the one eyed dajjali dollar...........

we will see but the tone of Modi has changed since then... alot less hawkish he is...

 

[rafale]

we will see but the tone of Modi has changed since then... alot less hawkish he is...

Not a single rebuttal has come from the Indian MoFA to Trumps tirades.......not a single one.......neither internally by Modi or IAF or anyone.

The only thing that has come is that "In combat we have losses" and "We spent 2 days re learning on how to fly" because the images coming from the OSINT of IAF jets splattered all over western India forced them to acknowledge the beating they received.

 

[Oscar]

Sir, Jee you must go back and start re-watching ISPR press brief regarding 7th May Air Battle.

all figures are there - i just suggest listen to PAF chap he in the beginning said (we could have taken out 14)

lots of curve balls. now in hindsight after 9-10 months that press briefing is getting understood.

I don't think those were curve balls -
Claiming you could have taken out 14 is different than actual clearances - launched missiles - actual hits/damages - then what actually went down.