Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Bharatah]

"Iranians turning away from Islam because of clerical regime!!" is one of the oldest Zionist propaganda lines out there. I remember reading it 15-18 years ago in some articles in late 2000's when Netanyahu was trying to push Bush to bomb Iran because it was few weeks away from a nuke. The reality is Iranians are diverse in their religiousity, some are devout, some are moderate, some have left religion altogether.

During both of my Umrah's in back to back years, there was no shortage of Iranian flags among all the umrah tour groups.

classical zionist fake news.

 

[kastor ville]

Qadr family of AShCM has ~2000 KM range and are more reliable than Abu-Mahdi considering they are picked by IRGCN for Shahid Soleimani Class.

Also Persian Gulf AShBM is a thing of past, IRGC moved to Homuz-1/2 antiradiation AShBM and then to Zolfaghar-Basir EO guided AShBM (750 KM, quasi BM). There are some mild hints (not confirmed) that Fattah-1 can hit naval targets too but that remains to be seen.

Hormuz-2 is a winner...as is Khorramshar

 

[StrategicBear]

Death to America!!!

 

[Aziqbal]

Iran needs satellites or at leats help from Russia or China

as soon as the US Naval assets launch those Tomahawks there's no way back

when they are launched Iran needs to know because within a short time span the bombers and fighters will be following up

its at that point that Iran has to launch EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING

or its all going to get destroyed on the ground and we will end up like what happened to Hezbollah

so the question is can China provide the live tracking for the launch of those Tomahawks

 

[ToddE]

Hormuz-2 is a winner...as is Khorramshar

Hormuz-2 can work like magic for ships passing through Strait of Hormuz. You turn your radar on and this Passive guided quasi-BM with small RCS MaRV is gonna strike you esp the radar apparatus. But its utility is limited to Strait of Hormuz blockade hence the name. Rumor had it, its passive guidance came from copying USAF's HARM.

 

[Beast89]

I would assume:

- half of Iran's population are under 35 and 20% of Iran's population is under 18. breakdown of adult population: 30% are young adults (18-35) and the rest are middle aged or older adults (70%).
- at least 70% of those older than 35 are muslim (= 49%).
- at least 30-40% of those aged 18-35 are muslim (= 9-12%).

so at least c. 60% of the adult population are muslim. this is a fairly conservative estimate, I think the real number is probably much higher than this, though whatever the number is, it will continue to fall as the younger generations replace the old.

this is only my guesswork based on my experiences. others will wildly disagree with my assumptions. there is virtually no way to know for sure.

Thank for your input. Its hard for non Iranians to grasp Iranian demographics and attitudes. My experiences growing up from at least half the Iranian diaspora considered themselves muslims around 20 years ago. But now things are completely different now. at shia muslim events Iranian numbers are very low and most are very anti Islam.

 

[ToddE]

Iran needs satellites or at leats help from Russia or China

as soon as the US Naval assets launch those Tomahawks there's no way back

when they are launched Iran needs to know because within a short time span the bombers and fighters will be following up

its at that point that Iran has to launch EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING

or its all going to get destroyed on the ground and we will end up like what happened to Hezbollah

so the question is can China provide the live tracking for the launch of those Tomahawks

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[kastor ville]

the hypersonic is the only one with a chance of reaching the CVN without interception, the others are not getting past the SM3 with or without EO sensors

Really...well, it does sound logical. Unless they get swarmed...I'm not sure if we can overwhelm their targeting locks..etc.

 

[Psyko70]

InshaAllah iran will prevail. 23 feb apparently seems will be the day. Sad thing for me is that its my bday.

 

[hussain0216]

@Musings @Persian Gulf @Oscar This man has been consistently calling Iranian Muslim females as whores. I have seen this before from him and he is accepting it. Can mods take action?

Genuinely,, all you need to look at what your diaspora is doing

When you lose faith, culture you end up in a mess

Your in the UK, surely you know what I'm talking about


That's not the end of the world, Iranian diaspora isn't massive, BUT you have a problem because these people CANNOT reconcile with the conservative Iranians

Your talking about two alien peoples

And the enemies of Iran are using these divide against iran

 

[kastor ville]

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Lol...I just mentioned this...thanks to China we may have a real good chance to taking out the airbase in Jordan

 

[mangekyo]

They have learned it from their parents. The millennials and Gen-Z of Iran are the result of parenting by young boys and girls that the IR ruined their lives by shoving Islam down their throats with force. The IR radical approach to Islamic unity and the Palestinian cause has backfired very intensively.

Honestly, I think the role of religion in people's lives is diminishing very fast and Iran is not an exception to this. It is a global phenomenon. It's happening even in Arab countries like Iraq and Lebanon. Even in places like Pakistan and Afghanistan, to a smaller extent. Iranians are one of the least religious people in the region.

Gen-Z are grandkids of those who left in 79. Parents of gen-z learnt it by being bombarded by anti-Iranian propaganda from Hollywood, the media, the school system and growing up in a society that hates Iranians. When they asked their parents if all this propaganda about Iran is really true, that Iranians are just a bunch of uncivilized terrorist retards, they said
A: «It’s like this now but before the revolution, Iran was this and that.»
B: «it’s like this now, but 2500 years ago before Islam, Persia was this and that» Its a carefully engineered psyop.

 

[Immortals]

Pick Axe mountain is buried? are you sure?

Parchin site has been fortified and partially buried

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Pick axe in process of being fortified and buried:

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Isfahan site has been fortified and buried:

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[maverick]

Iran hasn’t enriched uranium in 9 months

The Iranian nuclear program is already largely dormant other than some repairs to some buildings and cleanup at some sites. Natanz is still largely damaged. As is Isfahan. Fordow is still buried. And now Pick Axe mountain has been fortified and buried which means ongoing work to get that site ready is halted.

Iran would need to build a centrifuge production and assembly plant somewhere and procure the necessary equipment.

Then build a uranium metal conversion facility and so and so forth.

they have 60% enriched uranium sitting with them, around 280kgs plus, they can get to 90% uranium in 2-3 weeks and can get 130kg to 140kgs of weapon grade uranium, giving them 7 to 10 nuclear bombs of 20Kilo TNT yield

 

[ToddE]

Lol...I just mentioned this...thanks to China we may have a real good chance to taking out the airbase in Jordan

We cant fight with US + Israel + Jew controlled EU and Arab countries simultaneously but we will see things in this war being done by IRGC that not even USSR could do to US in its prime. It will become battlefield of technology observation for Super and Mid powers.