Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

ShapurII said:
Another Palestinian that loves Iran:

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We are going to war with the United States over these people. And then they ask why Iranians are tired of the Islamic Republic lol
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How do know it’s not a hasbara account? Or you yourself a hasbara account?
 
shapurzolaktaf said:
He's right in 1 thing, separatist flags were seen in Pahalvist demonstrations.
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This is real, i've saw it with my own eyes, they accept Kurdish separatists in their rallies and openly says that a new Iran should allow Kurdish and Azeri independance for the sake of "freedom" and Jewish personal interests

They are ready to kill their mothers if Jews ask them to do so, they are only nationalist against Arabs and muslims, but when its Jews and whites they meatride them and give out everything if they ask to
 
Wondering a few things

- How effective is it to cover entrances and other nuclear sites with concrete and soil, cant bunker busters still get through them?

- Israel committed Genocide in Gaza, destroyed all of Gaza and still failed to rescue any hostages and destroy hamas, what makes trumpy think he can stop Iranian missile attacks for a country 3 times size of Ukraine.

- Does Iran have any special Aces up its sleeve, any super accurate, and hypersonic fast missiles with massive destructive power? If they do may need to drop one on Dimona.

- Given what we saw in the 12-Day war, are there any realistic ways to defend or keep those missile bases operational?

- Does Iran have the capability to deploy mines across Strait of Hormuz within an hr if given the go ahead?
 
tsunset said:
Its Reddit, probably an Israeli posing as a Palestinian like the thousands of accounts posing as Palestinians and Iranians on middle eastern and world news subreddits
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Most Palestinians are very sectarian and hate Iran and Shias. Even HAMAS fought Hezbollah, remember? They love Saddam and Jolani.
 
mangekyo said:
Gen-Z are grandkids of those who left in 79. Parents of gen-z learnt it by being bombarded by anti-Iranian propaganda from Hollywood, the media, the school system and growing up in a society that hates Iranians. When they asked their parents if all this propaganda about Iran is really true, that Iranians are just a bunch of uncivilized terrorist retards, they said
A: «It’s like this now but before the revolution, Iran was this and that.»
B: «it’s like this now, but 2500 years ago before Islam, Persia was this and that» Its a carefully engineered psyop.
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Knowing from the Pakistani diaspora in the West, often reflected in this forum, those who grew up in the West or came to the West at an early age might as well belong to their origins only in name. And thus you see them in rather expansive mode in this forum, musing about grand plans and visions, perhaps sitting in their parents' basements.
I advise Pakistanis in this forum to be mindful of them and I advise Iranians to be mindful of their counterparts.
 
mangekyo said:
Most Palestinians are very sectarian and hate Iran and Shias. Even HAMAS fought Hezbollah, remember? They love Saddam and Jolani.
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I'm not saying they are with Iran, i know a lot of Palestinians hates Iran a lot and sides with Jewlani/other cucks in the region

Just saying that Reddit is filled with LARPers posing as Iranians/Palestinians
 
Immortals said:
Those satellite images are 10 days old. Iran has been first fortifying then burying to reduce impact at its nuclear sites.

Leaving the entrances open with war on the horizon is stupid, but sure it is possible. It would defeat the purpose of even fortifying them as a direct large PGM can still collapse the entrance.

No indications that Pick Axe is gonna be operational anytime soon. It was supposed to be an assembly plant for centrifuges (and possible second enrichment hall) after the above ground pilot assembling plant was sabotaged by Israel using a bomb in one of the machines tables.

I don’t think iran would try to breakout using Pick Axe. It’s basically just Fordow 2. A long term site.

So what benefit would there be not burying the entrances?
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you said it was buried

but it is not buried

Esfahan is buried since the stockpile of HEU is there. Fordow is buried because it's destroyed and ongoing access is not needed. Pick Axe is much more resilient than both those and not hiding anything there and construction is ongoing. I do not think it will be buried. we can see, that 'good ISIS' organisation releases new images every few days.
 
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fake news.

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Persian Gulf said:
Fordow is buried because it's destroyed and ongoing access is not needed.
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Fordow’s entrances were buried before the attack. no?

Persian Gulf said:
Pick Axe is much more resilient than both those
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In what sense does that apply to entrances of these sites. A mountain entrance can still be collapsed due to the thin bedrock that makes up the entrance. You can try reinforcing it, but a tunnel entrance still follows the laws of physics.

Pick Axe benefit is the hall is under more bedrock than Fordow. Its resiliency isn’t tied to its entrances unless you have other information on the site indicating this.

Persian Gulf said:
and not hiding anything there and construction is ongoing
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it’s been almost 9 months since June attacks and the site is not close to completion. It sure looks like iran is using it as a negotiating chip just like it used Arak and dragged their feet at completing that for years and ultimately mothballed it.

Why would Iran bring in its valuable centrifuges production machines into a site that could be closed off again rather than use a clandestine site? Centrifuges are delicate machines and can be harmed by extreme vibrations (from a massive bunker going off) or from the rapid loss of power (some IR centrifuges can survive this).
 
Emirzad said:
We cant fight with US + Israel + Jew controlled EU and Arab countries simultaneously but we will see things in this war being done by IRGC that not even USSR could do to US in its prime. It will become battlefield of technology observation for Super and Mid powers.
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If Iranians fight as one nation, then I'd put my money on them to eventually come out ahead. They would pay a heavy price but capitulation would only mean no more a sovereign Iran and to be bombed by Israel at will--and with possible fragmentation. But Iranians would have to fight as one nation to the fullest. Pakistanis would have fought India in a land war should it come to that in May 2025 with millions marching to the border to fight. Iran would have to do the same.

And Iranians are not in as hopeless situation as some make it out to be because they have many juicy targets within their reach and the biggest factor is the American unwillingness to absorb the body bags; Trump has not even created a foundation to justify attacking Iran, let alone make a 'case' to accept any number of American casualties. The political cost is too huge for even Trump; Democrats are waiting on the sideline for him to make a grave mistake.
 
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