055/052 destroyers thread
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Watandar
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Wow , that is a huge number of ships, requiring a huge number of personnel. Is China Navy also scaling up the training of new staff ?
Starlord
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I guess if China keep up the current pace they will have more DDG's than USN in next 5 years, I guess the only 2 places they are lacking are Air craft carriers and 5th Gen fighters to go along with them, which J-35's will be filling that.
AZ_HighCountry
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Quantity is a quality unto itself. However, there is still a significant gap in capability. The edge is still with the US for now.
Specific to aircraft carriers, it will be years before China is on par with the US in terms of carrier operations.
Starlord
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I know hence I only mentioned that DDG's, now like you said quantity is itself a quality so PLAN can fire more missiles at USA ships which can/will overwhelm USN AD's. But again its not black and white, USN can do the same. Specifically for AC operations yes US is still unmatched and will remain so for foreseeable future, also another thing where USN is leading is Nuclear capable Submarines.
ChineseTiger1986
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Your nuclear sub fleet is aging fast, and you are building the new ones with much slower pace.
China will quickly exceed 50 nuclear subs (large SSBN and SSN), not counting the smaller nuclear/aip hybrid propulsion subs and unmanned nuclear subs.
For China, there is no qualitative advantage from the USN, and its quantitative advantage isn't enormous either.
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Yommie
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As the Russia Ukraine war has proven, traditional capital ships are sitting ducks in modern war. Best to invest in small survivable sea drones.
StrategicBear
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China doesn't have to match the same amount of carriers or carrier operations ability as the US, because China isn't interested in fighting far-off foreign wars like USA. China only wants Taiwan back for now, so PLAN doesn't have to match one-by-one all number of ships in the USN.
Even 60%-70% of USN's entire carrier/naval combat capability is good enough because any war will be fought close to China's shores where China has Anti-Ship Hypersonic Missile Area-Denial Advantage.
