Operation Ghazab Lil Haq (Pakistan - Afghanistan War)

[Ak01]

Now im fully convinced that you've lost your marbles.

feel free to actually come up with a counter argument.

 

[the vicious kind]

Another false flag !

IK slaves have turned conspiracy theories into a substitute for actual thinking, almost as if spreading them is their version of ‘resistance.’

What’s especially remarkable is their contradiction: when terrorism happens inside Pakistan, they taunt everyone by saying, ‘We nurtured them ourselves.’ But the moment military action is taken against those same militants, they immediately switch to, ‘This will only increase terrorism.’

 

[hasssanali8998]

Soviets into the region.

are u really that retarded

its a weird phenomenon, but you tend to see israelis shilling and bending backwards for recognition from muslims.

oh yeah i do remember , us/israel begging for our recognition of israel and they would give us aid in the 50s .

 

[FarhanSiddiqui]

So we just let our citizens get blown up to pieces every day? We tried sealing the border, we tried letting them govern Afghanistan themselves , they thrive on conflict... Afghanistan is and always been in a constant civil war, even since the King Zahir Shahs days. Not a single Afghan regime has accepted the durand line.

Instead of posting troops in Pakistan the Failed Marshmallow wanted to send Pakistani troops to support the Zionazis. After their defeat and loss of territories in Anglo-Afghan war the Afghan government claimed that the British will return these lands after they end their colonization of modern Pakistan. All Afghan claim lands in Pakistan and Iran conquered and ruled by Ahmad Shah Abdali of Afghanistan. I mean some Pakistanis also dream of another Mughal Empire in South Asia. Zionazis want the lands between Euphrates to Nile rivers.

 

[Jango]

The US tried to keep as much infrastructure intact, and did not in fact bomb them to kingdom come.

They didn't bomb the presidential palace or the governor's mansions...that's inconsequential. Every asset or every hiding ground of Taliban/ISIS/AQ was targeted and the insurgents were not given room to freely operate.

So you're proposing bombing each and every living person in Afghanistan? Alright, let's suppose we even are capable of doing that, then what? How does that resolve the terrorism issue we have at hand?

For how long will you keep playing this game of whack-a-mole? This isn't the LTTE that you are fighting in Sri Lanka where you can bomb all their infrastructure and hand them a military defeat. Neither is it Gaza that you can bomb 100 sq mi area into oblivion and keep everyone caged.

It's become very convenient of late for all in this part of the world to put all the blame on Afghanistan and absolve yourself of your responsibilities.

I think it's high time we accept that the terrorism issue is now fully home grown, and not only an imported problem, and need to tackle it as such.

Blaming Afghanistan every time and getting all red in the eyes with blood isn't going to give you a long term practical solution, just short term euphoria.

The strikes should continue, major infrastructure used by the taliban should be targeted with the end goal of giving opposition groups a way to make gains, and eventually balkanize Afghanistan permanently.

Ah yes...strategic depth, magr aik twist kay sath. Because last time our endeavors went so well. Besides, what is up with this pipe dream of Balkanizing Afghanistan? Again, what will that do? The pushtun belt will remain as is, and that is where you have an issue. The rest of the country is practically irrelevant to us, balkanize or not.

 

[Maea]

feel free to actually come up with a counter argument.

This whole insurgency in west Pakistan is funded by India and Isreal and executed using afghan soil and menpower.
What you are saying is that we should ask the same guys killing us to help us stop them. It doesnt make any sense.

 

[Ak01]

oh yeah i do remember , us/israel begging for our recognition of israel and they would give us aid in the 50s .

i think we could even now call in some favours from both, in exchange for a backend security agreement ensuring no nuclear use/intel co operation

 

[Ak01]

This whole insurgency in west Pakistan is funded by India and Isreal and executed using afghan soil and menpower.
What you are saying is that we should ask the same guys killing us to help us stop them. It doesnt make any sense.

any proof of israeli involvement?

Israeli funding of Pakistani insurgents would be the worst policy on their part, because if they ever got a nuke, the first place they'd use it would be israel. So no, thats counter intuitive and tin foil hat stuff.

 

[FarhanSiddiqui]

nice deflection rtard , i aksed why u never speak against terror acts done by taliban and u bring up failed policies of our duffers .

You bring up the symptoms while I remind you how we got infected by this disease.

 

[Maea]

any proof of israeli involvement?

Israeli funding of Pakistani insurgents would be the worst policy on their part, because if they ever got a nuke, the first place they'd use it would be israel. So no, thats counter intuitive and tin foil hat stuff.

No, its not.
If the funding is from isreal how are the insurgents going to nuke isreal?
isreal wants every muslim state to be subservient to them, and what you are suggesting is exactly that.

 

[Jango]

people will dislike this, but the reality is, pakistan and israel face a very, very similar threat.

radical islamists on its border and inside, and expansionist states.

Other than the fact that Afghans and Gazans both are muslims, there is absolutely nothing in common between the two conflicts, their origins, their current state, or their dynamics.

 

[Ak01]

Other than the fact that Afghans and Gazans both are muslims, there is absolutely nothing in common between the two conflicts, their origins, their current state, or their dynamics.

really? nothing in terms of narrative, media coverage, existential threat, terrorism and territorial claims? be real.

 

[the vicious kind]

Instead of posting troops in Pakistan the Failed Marshmallow wanted to send Pakistani troops to support the Zionazis. After their defeat and loss of territories in Anglo-Afghan war the Afghan government claimed that the British will return these lands after they end their colonization of modern Pakistan. All Afghan claim lands in Pakistan and Iran conquered and ruled by Ahmad Shah Abdali of Afghanistan.

What are you even smoking, man?

Firstly, Pakistan officially refused to send troops to Gaza or take part in any plan to disarm Hamas.

Second, it really doesn’t matter what the Afghan government claims. The Durand Line is an internationally recognized border , even India treats it as such. Only Afghan nationalists keep recycling this delusion of claiming Pakistani land while they can’t even properly control or govern the land already under them.

And the irony? They can’t even fully govern the territory they already have. Just the other day, they were opening fire on Tajik protesters.

 

[Jango]

really? nothing in terms of narrative, media coverage, existential threat, terrorism and territorial claims? be real.

Yes, really.

You tell me, what is the common theme in the two conflicts?

Taliban isn't an existential threat to us, and frankly neither is Hamas to them at this point.

What's common in terms of narrative? One country is actively annexing land every single day, removing residents from their homes, taking land, and foregoing rights for the people over there, and the Israeli narrative is to justify those actions because it was said to them by God that they are to be given that land.

Are you really saying that our narrative has anything in common with that? Come on man.

 

[Jango]

I think we need to get that Farhan Jaffery chap into this thread now!