Türkiye unveils exclusive details of future TF-2000-class destroyer

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@Pingle

By the way, I am sarcastic. I am disgusted by the war-crazed madmen around us.

Sorry for not understanding the sarcastic part....

 

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stop dreaming and return to real world

We have seen nuclear power USA in Vietnam
We have seen nuclear power Russia in Ukraine

nobody can use nuclear weapons
and France is not a power to match with the Turkish Armed Forces in the Eastern Mediterranean

Eastern Mediterranean is Turkiye's playzone

weak Greece can not protect even Islands which are 3-10-30 km away from Turkish mainland

and Egypt is full of joke with monkey model weapons

You need to calm down and study some realities..... Turkey is an easy blockade prone country by any powerful navy in the class of France, UK or USA.....

If you take a close look at Turkish map you will realize that technically Turkey is a landlocked country like China..... just too many too many obstacles in the from of islands under enemy controls..... heck Greece controls so many islands that are as close as 2 kms away from your mainland and they don't allow you to do anything here as they consider that water body as their EEZ..... you are just like China that is bottle necked in your own waters....... why Turkey till date is tolerating this Greece bully?? Because they know they can't do anything....... take a look at Greek islands blocking your main coast, take a look at Cyprus, take a look at Gibraltar and take a look at suez canal and study how much blockade prone Turkey is and hence a semi landlocked nation......

If you go against Egypt then Egypt will not let your merchant ships and naval ships cross suez.... if you hurt France then France will bring its blue water navy right in front of Gibraltar and deny you access to Atlantic...... if you hurt Greece then they won't even let your trawlers out for fishing in your own waters.....

 

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if tomorrow France deploys Charles De Gaul AC with horizon, Fremms and Gowind class along with Rubies and barracudas you will be totally blockaded..... if you are planning to answer this with cheap drones then good luck to Turkey..

Good luck to Countries which dreaming to fight with 1990s concept

French Navy can not stand even 1 day against the Turkish Armed Forces in the Eastern Mediterranean

Great A2 AD capability
-- 250-380 km S400 AD Systems can block Eastern Mediterranean against Fighter Jets
also 100-150 km SIPER AD Systems

-- 234 F-16s and 4 Boeing E-7T AEWCs can turn French Navy into scrap of metal

-- 17 Frigates . 4 Corvettes . 22 FACs . 14 Submarines . 12 ASW Aircraft can block Eastern Mediterranean

-- 250 km land based ATMACA anti-ship Missiles can block Eastern Mediterranean against Warships


and in finally unmanned robotic war concept

300 UCAVS armed with 1500-2000 missiles and guided munitions to turn enemy naval fleet into scrap of metal

French Navy doesnt have even 250 SAMs .... learn about military before talking


even I am not talking about unmanned combat-kamikaze Vessels which used by Ukraine to destroy Russian Warships

Turkish unmanned kamikaze Vessel with warhead of 200 kg

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swarm attack capability with 8 units .... good luck to Enemies

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You need to calm down and study some realities..... Turkey is an easy blockade prone country by any powerful navy in the class of France, UK or USA.....

Maybe by USA
but not weak France

 

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just too many too many obstacles in the from of islands under enemy controls..... heck Greece controls so many islands that are as close as 2 kms away from your mainland and they don't allow you to do anything here as they consider that water body as their EEZ.....

only one day and no more Greek Forces in Islands which are 2 -10- 30 km away Turkish mainland

never forget that Turkiye has the 2nd strongest fire power in NATO after USA
All Greek Islands are in range of Turkish Howitzers . MLRS . guided munitions . Ballistic and Cruise Missiles

also UCAV fleet and kamikaze Drones

even Turkish Air Force F-16 Fighter Jets can fire 25-100 km guided Bombs from Turkish Airspace to destroy all Greek Forces in Islands which are 2 -10- 30 km away Turkish mainland

precision strike competence has been gained on up to 8 different targets in one sortie with a single Aircraft

Greece only can dream about it

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If you go against Egypt then Egypt will not let your merchant ships and naval ships cross suez.... if you hurt France then France will bring its blue water navy right in front of Gibraltar and deny you access to Atlantic...... if you hurt Greece then they won't even let your trawlers out for fishing in your own waters.....

We can hit even All Naval Bases in Egypt
and Egypt can watch Turkish Ballistic and Cruise Missile strikes only on TV
Egypt doesnt have large scale strategic strike capability

We dont care about Atlantic ..

and Greece can not do anything except crying for helping from USA and France


So They tried to match with Turkiye in Libya and in the Eastern Mediterranean since 2019

Turkiye did not step back even one step against France Greece Egypt and others

 

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The UAE interested in F-35
but USA did not sell F-35 to The UAE .. and bought RAFALE

It's not truth.
-USA made a formal proposal with F35 and some other goodies (RQ 4 ?) and this offer was refused by UAE.
-This proposal came after the Rafale purchase.

Once again your franch bashing is crystal clear.

 

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on the other hand KAAN first flight
perfect take off and landing

Gripen, F16, F22 didn't failed at first flight !

Your KAAN first flight is all but impressive.

I just hope that when it comes to some G or some mach it will not have troubles as experimented by some very skilled team as LM ou SAAB....

 

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It's not truth.
-USA made a formal proposal with F35 and some other goodies (RQ 4 ?) and this offer was refused by UAE.
-This proposal came after the Rafale purchase.

Once again your franch bashing is crystal clear.

Nahhhhh

USA did not sell F-35s to the UAE
USA doesnt sell F-35s to any muslim Country because of Israel

Jewish looby was so active

Why the United States Shouldn’t Sell Jets to the UAE​

Selling F-35s to the United Arab Emirates could give Russia access to U.S. technology and erode Israel’s regional military edge.​

Why the United States Shouldn’t Sell Jets to the UAE

Selling F-35s to the United Arab Emirates could give Russia access to U.S. technology and erode Israel’s regional military edge.

foreignpolicy.com

US suspends $23 billion sale of F-35s to UAE that followed Abraham Accords

https://www.timesofisrael.com/us-puts-hold-on-sale-of-f-35s-to-uae-that-followed-abraham-accords/

 

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France is not USA
and RAFALE is not stealth F-35
1 Aircraft Carrier can not do anything against the Turkish Armed Forces

France is not a threat to Turkiye in the Eastern Mediterranean .... not even close

Sur we are not USA. One point for the MMM-E newbie !

You have nothing to oppose to Rafale. Your fleet is now old and short legs.

Just a single SSN in front of a Turkish harbour and it is game over.

You have just some hairs to the ass and you think you are a gorilla.... Funny.

 

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Gripen, F16, F22 didn't failed at first flight !

They failed during take off and landing in the first flight or prototype test flights

and you are talking about G or some mach ..... what a joker

 

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The kizilelma's engines are likely going to be replaced once the production models are developed to fruition.

On top of that, a proper catapult systems would help tremendously to launch the drone.

Besides, the drone isn't all that big, just looks big. It's about the size of an F-16.

You are right, but :
What kind of engine? Without catapult you need after burner, and even so the load is limited.
A catapult? OK but as for now the ship is not fitted with.

In dream or in a near future all is possible, but today it is not.

 

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You have nothing to oppose to Rafale. Your fleet is now old and short legs.

We dont need even F-16S
192 S400 Air Defense Missiles are enough to turn old RAFALEs into scrap of metal

even Turkish SIPER AD System enter service this year with 450 km ERALP AESA Radar


old RAFALE is not 5th gen F-35 ........

 

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Just a single SSN in front of a Turkish harbour and it is game over.

only in your dreams

 

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You have just some hairs to the ass and you think you are a gorilla.... Funny.

Thats MACRON

France lost everywhere Syria , Libya , Africa , Karabakh, in the Eastern Mediterranean
and now in Ukraine

where are your useless SSNs ? so funny