Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Eşbah said:
The war has started.

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Israeli fighter jets are currently bombing South Lebanon and Hezbollah positions. This is the first step before attacking Iran.
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Iran will provide the rocket power this time.

HB should invade northern front. They are good soldiers.
 
Ali_Baba said:
Nuclear weapons are allowed in Islam. Why do they think they are not ?? ( Same bunch of people who can't agree on which day we start and stop Ramadan ?? )
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Im not a theologon, I understand indiscriminate killing in Islam is not allowed, but I see nukes for defensive reasons never to be used. They are ultimate guarantee against regime change ops in a sense.

Irans leaders have snookered themselves, the very thing which could have protected their nation where this war could lead to 000's deaths, removal of their government and subjugation of their nation, they refused to get.

What was the point of spending 00s billions on nuclear tech when they can't use it. It's bad decisions like these which has created great divisions in Iran, their people have a right to be angry about the way their government has wasted money on il conceived gains.
 
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Sounds like Iran is offering 2015 JCPOA + economic investment contracts and Trump wants total capitulation.

Barring a breakthru tonite, I think Iran is on borrowed time. Persian New Year a few weeks a way, perfect time to start a war as large parts of society are shut down and traveling.
 
mulj said:
Hossein Amir-Abdollahian was very competent and big loss for Iran.
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That dude was a bigger idiot. Him and Raisi let the AoR get decapitated and just sat and gave meaningless red lines as Israel destroyed HZ, Assad, and Hamas.

Iran hasn’t had a competent FM in decades. Not a competent president.

The only competent Iranian official was Solemani and his thirst for martyrdom got him killed. The man should never have left Iran. Look at Ghaani, he rarely travels abroad.
 
Immortals said:
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Sounds like Iran is offering 2015 JCPOA + economic investment contracts and Trump wants total capitulation.

Barring a breakthru tonite, I think Iran is on borrowed time. Persian New Year a few weeks a way, perfect time to start a war as large parts of society are shut down and traveling.
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well, Trump want to take what other achieve with total war and invading others only by threats ....
 
Ali_Baba said:
Nuclear weapons are allowed in Islam. Why do they think they are not ?? ( Same bunch of people who can't agree on which day we start and stop Ramadan ?? )
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So yeah iI agree with your above post and disagree I don’t agree with nuclear weapons but also agree without them anyone of these countries can be brought to it’s knees for fear of others with nuclear weapons.

It’s definitely stupid to actually use them but if everyone has something to lose in the face of nuclear war no one sane will actually use it
 
kastor ville said:
Also the GCC could've achieved the same result without the need to be a vassal to the enemies of Islam, but because they're not a natural rule, and they're paranoid, they needed to sell their soul to be able to get protection from the US. This is why educated Muslims hate them....not for their success, but because they're sell outs and corrupt rulers. On tv they don't drink and they go to Mecca....but behind the scenes they appear in the Epstein files.
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I doubt GCC would achieve the same success if they weren't vassals. The U.S policy for the Middle Eastern is that you either provide value and comply to American policies, or you get removed. If they can't remove you, you get sanctioned and weakened.
 
Negotiations

Iran :
I offer general peace and will buy American goods and planes, worth many billions to create jobs
Need sanctions off , I need to develop Nuclear Energy for my people and grow my economy

Zionist :
If I don't steal it , someone else will
I will build a casino , I will build nice road and beaches , Prime Resort
If you don't accept my term , I will use American people and their resources to do dirty work for Zionist.

[Opinion of American Podcaster/Journalist]
As Tucker Carlson, highlighted in his interview with the Zionist Pig
The Zionist can use all money of American people their resources because that is what they believe in


If it was a normal American person they would like say why are our ships all the way in Middle east instead for protecting local shores. Has Iran sent any war ship to our Land in past 50 years?
 
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I don't think it is Iranian diplomat style to post on twitter they have a proper News Agency for formal statements
 
Ali_Baba said:
Nuclear weapons are allowed in Islam. Why do they think they are not ?? ( Same bunch of people who can't agree on which day we start and stop Ramadan ?? )
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The idea is a sword or a spear etc you have autonomy over the weapon

So as a Muslim you make the choice to only target your enemy in battle, which doesn't include women and children or the innocent for example


A nuclear weapon does not distinguish
If you drop it on a enemy city, you kill every man, every woman, every child, every dog, cat, bird, fish etc etc etc etc


And unlike collateral damage, where you intend to target a enemy and accidentally kill people in the vicinity

You know right from the beginning a nuclear weapon will kill innocents



Now we can discuss the validity of the above for ages,, but that's the thinking IR is using
Frankly they are RIGHT and they are logical
But the problem is right and logical won't protect you from scum bags like the Jews and Americans and if the choice is their women and children dying or your women and children dying then I would pick theirs

And that's why Pakistan has nuclear weapons, because we would rather fry the fcuk out of the Hindus or any other enemy then sit here and let them kill us
 
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