Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Tariq Habib Afridi said:
He is referring to the Khameni fatwa. which says as in islam you cannot kill innocent people so weapons of mass destruction such as Nuclear weapon has been haram as it will kill innocent civilians as well
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Other than a sword for a 1 to 1 fight between two people, every single modern weapon has collateral damage effect and by this logic is logically "haram". Maybe the Iranians should stop building ballistic missiles because they can kill innocents too? Warships, fighter jets.. the List is endless.
 
Ali_Baba said:
Other than a sword for a 1 to 1 fight between two people, every single modern weapon has collateral damage effect and by this logic is logically "haram". Maybe the Iranians should stop building ballistic missiles because they can kill innocents too? Warships, fighter jets.. the List is endless.
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Haha! You are right about that!
 
Ali_Baba said:
Other than a sword for a 1 to 1 fight between two people, every single modern weapon has collateral damage effect and by this logic is logically "haram". Maybe the Iranians should stop building ballistic missiles because they can kill innocents too? Warships, fighter jets.. the List is endless.
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First of all i am not defending him.. my opinion is when others have such weapon of mass destruction at their disposal then muslim should also make it if not to be used first atleast make it for deterrence.

Second thing they have a justification for that as well..in nuclear weapons that is total human innocent killings but in other scenarios like missiles it can kill few civilians as well if the target is militry or base.
 
tsunset said:
Iran's biggest mistake was to support Arab cucks that won't lift a finger if Iran is endangered

The only good friend Iran made was Yemen, all the others are cucks that are addicted to defeats

Let Lebanese cucks disarm Hezbollah, cut all of funding to the cucks besides Yemen, save all that money for Iranian interests

Iranians had enough of PMU, Hezbollah and Hamas, the only true ally is Yemen, the others Iranians are getting tired of, draining money for strictly nothing
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Iran betrayed Hezbollah when Iran let Israel to destroy hezbollah without helping. I'm not the only one who thought that a full war with hezbollah or Iran would somehow trigger both parties firing missiles at the same time at Israel causing some overwhelming destruction but that never happened. Iran fked up big time and it cost them a lot during the 12 day war fighting Israel alone with their IADS, leadership and BM offensive capability being degraded. The moment Israel killed the IRGC general in Syria (Iranian embassy) it should have been a wakeup call for Iran that Israel was in a no fks given mode and coordinated with hezbollah.... but hindsight is 20-20 I suppose.
 
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Israeli fighter jets are currently bombing South Lebanon and Hezbollah positions. This is the first step before attacking Iran.
 
Well push against Lebnon/Syria is done so they can move in claim more Land
In case Iran is not successful , they will push all the way into Iraq

Possibly into Iran from Western Front

The civilian population will be fodder , Zionist already don't value human lives

It's really about taking over more "Land" & Resources for Zionist
It is not about Iran , not taking Khamenei or other leadership
 
Meengla said:
Several countries with great natural resources wealth have squandered their chances to be truly wealthy and prosperous: Venezuela, Nigeria, Iran, Russia. They either indulged in wrong geopolitical adventures and/or indulged their domestic population too much. In contrast, the GCC Arab countries, which this forum loves to hate, have lifted tens of millions of people out of poverty not only in their own countries but also to even more expats millions.

And pity that some Pakistanis here, especially the expat ones, advocate a resource starved, extremely overpopulated country like Pakistan to take an aggressive stance far beyond Pakistan's borders when a powerful, large eight decade old neighbor India is ready to pounce given any chance. Who needs enemies with friends like these?!
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They could've still been prosperous, as long they didn't pick on the world's nastiest superpower....the issue with Iran was they did, because they were stupid, and still are. We have people that are brilliant, and highly educated but they take their orders from a senile old man. This must be corrected.
Also the GCC could've achieved the same result without the need to be a vassal to the enemies of Islam, but because they're not a natural rule, and they're paranoid, they needed to sell their soul to be able to get protection from the US. This is why educated Muslims hate them....not for their success, but because they're sell outs and corrupt rulers. On tv they don't drink and they go to Mecca....but behind the scenes they appear in the Epstein files.
 
The argument about Missiles is not valid , because many nations have ICBM
China/Russia , and many other nations have Long range missiles without going into details

It's not like ICBM is a new technology if you can send something in space you can technically orbit any spot on earth and land to designated area

Iran is already quite advance in term of Space Rockets

If they recently demonstrated a new missile it is quite normal , North Korea has similar Missiles as well

  • Zionist Idealogy is , lets go to war for Israel and pull in American resources (Man Power/Guinea Pigs)
  • In order to convince the People of America , obviously you need some excuse , so the excuse is , "oh Iran is making a long range missile"

On Social Media there is active footage of US army personnel being remove or retired , if they are found opposing Israel , there is a Zionist friendly control structure in place in US army which is adjusting units to include hardcore elements I saw a podcast talking about US soldiers being removed from their army post for mere "Having a opposing opinion about Israel" they were called national security threat
 
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Eşbah said:
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Iran will provide the rocket power this time.

HB should invade northern front. They are good soldiers.
 
Ali_Baba said:
Nuclear weapons are allowed in Islam. Why do they think they are not ?? ( Same bunch of people who can't agree on which day we start and stop Ramadan ?? )
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Im not a theologon, I understand indiscriminate killing in Islam is not allowed, but I see nukes for defensive reasons never to be used. They are ultimate guarantee against regime change ops in a sense.

Irans leaders have snookered themselves, the very thing which could have protected their nation where this war could lead to 000's deaths, removal of their government and subjugation of their nation, they refused to get.

What was the point of spending 00s billions on nuclear tech when they can't use it. It's bad decisions like these which has created great divisions in Iran, their people have a right to be angry about the way their government has wasted money on il conceived gains.
 
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