Türkiye unveils exclusive details of future TF-2000-class destroyer
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Pingle
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Air defence systems are good as a deterrence but proper planning with decent fighters can fool them..... if it was not the case whole world would only invest in air defence system instead of going for costly fighters jets and pilots training..... its not as easy as typing the line this system or that system will turn fighters into the scrap of metal......
Even if France really has to attack you then don't forget that France will actually try to destroy specifically your air defence systems as well as air bases before going on full fledged attack..... you don't know how these western powers fight..... French SSBNs and SSNs alone are capable to bring Turkiye on the negotiations table without firing a single SLBM or SLCM's.....
MMM-E
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NGAD IS THE BEST
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Hahaha you're too emotional and always living in your fantasy world and lala land lol
How can Turkiye destroy French 57 nuclear power plants in France lol
Hakikat ve Hikmet
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I am pretty sure the Pak strategists, engineers and scientists are like hands and gloves vis-a-vis the major Turkish defense projects....
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MMM-E
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We would want to see 200m Turkish Joint Firepower Ships to carry 200 TAYFUN - CENK Ballistic Missiles and GEZGIN land attack Cruise Missiles to operate with Carrier Strike Group in near future
like that
Turkiye can turn 200 m DIMDEG Ship design into Arsenal Ship to carry 200 Ballistic -Cruise Missiles
1.000+ km TAYFUN-CENK Ballistic Missiles to deliver a massive missile attack on the enemy,
South Korea is planning to produce 3 Arsenal Ships to carry 100 missiles of various types Ballistic and Cruise Missiles
Countries like France can not do it
France doesnt have Ballistic Missiles for conventional war
even if needed today
Turkiye can use Israeli concept ..
to fire 1.000 km TAYFUN and CENK Ballistic Missiles from dozens of Cargo Ships to hit strategic targets including in France
Israeli concept
like that
Turkiye can turn 200 m DIMDEG Ship design into Arsenal Ship to carry 200 Ballistic -Cruise Missiles
1.000+ km TAYFUN-CENK Ballistic Missiles to deliver a massive missile attack on the enemy,
South Korea is planning to produce 3 Arsenal Ships to carry 100 missiles of various types Ballistic and Cruise Missiles
Countries like France can not do it
France doesnt have Ballistic Missiles for conventional war
even if needed today
Turkiye can use Israeli concept ..
to fire 1.000 km TAYFUN and CENK Ballistic Missiles from dozens of Cargo Ships to hit strategic targets including in France
Israeli concept
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MMM-E
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I am talking about KAAN Fighter Jet .. same fan boys talking about French SSBN
I am talking about KIZILELMA and ANKA-3 unmanned stealth Fighter Jets .. same fan boys talking about French SSBN
I am talking about TF-2000 Destroyer project .. same fan boys talking about French SSBN
what a daydreamer team who always living in their fantasy world
stop dreaming and return to real world
USA fought for 13 years in Vietnam
USA fought for years in Iraq
USSR fought for 9 years in Afghanistan
and They could not use nuclear weapons
Nobody can use nuclear weapons
We have seen how all Russian nuclear Submarines . ICBMs . SLBMs are useless in Ukraine
I am talking about KIZILELMA and ANKA-3 unmanned stealth Fighter Jets .. same fan boys talking about French SSBN
I am talking about TF-2000 Destroyer project .. same fan boys talking about French SSBN
what a daydreamer team who always living in their fantasy world
stop dreaming and return to real world
USA fought for 13 years in Vietnam
USA fought for years in Iraq
USSR fought for 9 years in Afghanistan
and They could not use nuclear weapons
Nobody can use nuclear weapons
We have seen how all Russian nuclear Submarines . ICBMs . SLBMs are useless in Ukraine
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NGAD IS THE BEST
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you're a emotional kid do you know your out of this universe KIZILELMA and ANKA-3 are not invincible and invisible stealth trone cooperative engagement capability can easily detect your out of this universe KIZILELMA and ANKA-3 with ease and destroying them is not problematic for France USA did not use nukes in Vietnam because soviet union was also there if USA used nukes on North Vietnam than soviets would used in South Vietnam and on Thailand where US forces were present
Rest of wars were war on terror but actually captured natural resources from both countries (Iraq/Afghanistan)
MMM-E
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What a daydreamer kid who said that Turkiye can not develop KIZILELMA and KAAN Jets 4 years ago ..... and now he says KIZILELMA and ANKA-3 are not invincible
keep dreaming we will wake up all daydreamers
When our fleets of KIZILELMA and ANKA-3 will be ready we will see what about the French Navy in the Eastern Mediterranean
KIZILELMA and ANKA-3 along with KAAN Fighter Jets easly to turn the French Navy into scrap of metal
Radars can not detect KIZILELMA . ANKA-3 and KAAN from 150-200 km away
but We can detect enemy targets from 150-200 km away and to fire 150-200-280 km CAKIR . KUZGUN-TJ . SOM missiles
120km ASTER-30 SAM can not do anything when our platforms fires missiles from 150-200-280 km away ...... even TB-2/3 , ANKA , AKSUNGUR , AKINCI UCAVs are enough to hit French Warships
even I am not talking about upcoming 270 F-16 Fighter Jets with block70 standard armed with 160 km AIM-120D and 200 km GOKHAN air to air Missiles
even 10 Turkish MARLIN unmanned Vessels to carry 200 KUZGUN-TJ Missiles with range of 180 km
French Warships can not stop even swarm attacks by Turkish UCAVs and USVs
another variant for Electronic Warfare
Even I am not talking about Turkish unmanned kamikaze Vessels with warhead of 200kg
Even I am not talking about BARBAROS Coastal Defense System with 250 km ATMACA anti-ship Missiles
even I am not talking about 250-380 km S400 and 150-250 km SIPER Air Defense Systems to block Eastern Mediterranean against RAFALEs
even I am not talking about upcoming Turkish Navy with 8 ISTIF class Frigates . 4 modernized MEKO-200TN Frigates . 4 ADA class Corvettes . 6 new Type 214TN AIP Submarines . STM-500 attack Submarines . 10 HISAR class OPVs and of course TF-2000 class Destroyers
keep dreaming with your out of this universe RAFALE from 1980s
keep dreaming with your out of this universe HORIZON Destroyer armed with only 48 SAMs
France could not dare even come close to Turkish EEZ in the Eastern Mediterranean in the next 5 years
We need only 5 years .... then whole world will see what will happen
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MMM-E
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That was conventional war between Iraq and USA
and today Russia can not use nuclear weapons in Ukraine
even Ukraine is not a NATO member and nobody can fight for Ukraine
Nobody can use nuclear weapons except during ww3
guangdongt
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My Indian friend, this precisely indicates that the world is formed based on the division of interests among the winners. I know this boundary is formed due to the history of past wars. Then, Türkiye's vigorous development of the navy is based on their own right choice, but this choice is regarded as a threat by the existing order.
Are there any fundamental contradictions between neighboring countries, France, Egypt and Türkiye. Basically, the world does not want Türkiye to be strong enough to lose control of the existing order.
so,The friction between neighboring countries can be resolved through negotiation, which is not the essence of the problem
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bengalcdn
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MMM-E, brother be humble. Turkey has definitely made advances in military industry and production such as land systems, vehicles, combat helicopters, drones, unmanned naval vessels etc. but making bombastic statements such as the one above loses you all credibility.
bengalcdn
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MMM-E these are great achievements especially the unmanned systems naval and air. But Turkey still has long way to go. Hope the economy gets better so more naval warships and unmanned systems can be produced.
NGAD IS THE BEST
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Lol you're too much overconfident and emotional
kid France has far better network centric warfare capability than you have day dream all the years along kid 
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