Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

mangekyo said:
For those who say Iran should have done pre emptive strikes. Pre emptive strikes on who exactly? Israel, US, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Qatar, Jordan? All of them? Which country on earth has the capability to hit all these targets at once and survive?
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Come on, bro. You had carriers and ships stationed right outside your shores. Even an illiterate person in military affairs could have informed you from which direction the attacks would come; put the scenario into ChatGPT, and even it would have told you.

[Don't feel bad, had Pakistan been in Iran's position, it too would have religiously made the same mistake.]
 
That_Guy said:
Whether China was unwilling, or unable to sell fighters to Iran, the end result was the same.
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Iran did not acquire Chinese fighter jets. That's a fact. But we cannot use the subjective judgment term "unwilling."

China has always been open to Iran purchasing J-10C fighter jets. However, they chose the Su-35.

The J-10C is a medium-sized fighter jet based on Chinese systems warfare concepts. The Su-35 is a heavy fighter jet based on Russian platform warfare concepts. The two are completely incomparable. Given Iran's own conditions, the Su-35 is a more suitable choice for the Iranian Air Force.
 
PakFactor said:
Come on, bro. You had carriers and ships stationed right outside your shores. Even an illiterate person in military affairs could have informed you from which direction the attacks would come; put the scenario into ChatGPT, and even it would have told you.

[Don't feel bad, had Pakistan been in Iran's position, it too would have religiously made the same mistake.]
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The ships were just one potential point of attack. To deter US and Israel, Iran would have had to hit and destroy American bases in Turkey, Qatar, Jordan, Saudi etc. Something which Iran doesn't have the capability of. And muslim world would go absolutely crazy and declare jihad on Shias.
 
I dont know if Iran will be able to do this
The forces ammassed against them is beyond anything they have had to face before.

The good news is that we are already seeing missile salvos against israel. Last time it took about 12 hours before Iran made a counter attack.
 
Israel named It's operation against Iran : "The lion's roar"


Interceptions being heard over Amman, Jordan.

The U.S. has several ballistic missile defense systems placed in Jordan to protect Israel
 
ChineseTiger1986 said:
Although they are breaching these two countries with sovereignty, but abducting a head of state is still quite different from launching a full attack.
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What was in Venezuela? They sent their soldiers. They used local traitors and given the cover by their Air Force. I think they did try in Iran as well. Let the situation get clear. We will know what happened
 
mangekyo said:
The ships were just one potential point of attack. To deter US and Israel, Iran would have had to hit and destroy American bases in Turkey, Qatar, Jordan, Saudi etc. Something which Iran doesn't have the capability of. And muslim world would go absolutely crazy and declare jihad on Shias.
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Ships would have been the ideal target, the cost and manpower. Past experience has shown that the United States starts its opening salvo from the ships.

The Muslim world would have done nothing; they can't move.
 
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