Operation Ghazab Lil Haq (Pakistan - Afghanistan War)

[Master Chief]

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Indian filth put in her place. Indian editors were in her ear yelling "do not let him redeem!!!".

Zaidi sahib still redeemed the FULL amount.

 

[SirHeretic]

They are saying that Pakistan is temporarily halting the air campaign and will only conduct the campaign using ground offensives for now due to what’s happening in the region? How true is that?

 

[ghazi52]

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[Master Chief]

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Cucks

Not cucks at all. If only stopping air attacks, seems logical to me, since US and Iranian anti-air is active not too far away. We don't need any "accidents".

 

[ghazi52]

 

[SirHeretic]

Not cucks at all. If only stopping air attacks, seems logical to me, since US and Iranian anti-air is active not too far away. We don't need any "accidents".

No official word from ISPR yet about halting air operations though, do not know where he got this from

 

[El Sidd]

Literally on my bed rn can't even see been awake for since 27

Gn

Are you not going to open your fast in an hour or so? You said you were fasting and in Islamabad.

 

[Reichmarshal]

1- We hit them after the suicide attack with airstrikes
2- And then the cross border escalation starts on the ground and things escalate.

Can't say that after we strike them, and TTA retaliates (with whatever they have), that they are doing it on someone's behest. We expected them to chill after getting bombed? The same happened last time too, the difference being, the cross border firing last time was limited to just that. We are increasing the escalation ladder here.

Besides, there is nothing Afghanistan is doing currently that will limit Pakistan's diplomatic ability here. Not as if we were in any position to help Iran out militarily or otherwise before either.

Had it been India attacking us or something similar, I would've agreed this line of thought. But Afghanistan is a completely separate problem right now IMO.

wt they are doing is death by a thousand cuts, which, until a few days they were doing with impunity, without any remorse, cost or any significant chance of retaliation from PAK.
the rest of ur post ive already answered.

 

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^50 minutes ago

In constant awe of the steely resolve and utter professionalism of our jawans and officers. Always will be. The courage it takes to act professionally in a war zone is unfathomable to me.

Stay safe chaps and avoid the booby traps those cowards will try to leave in your path.

 

[PakAl]

After attack on iran, I find this very convincing from najam sethi.. We are under ring of fire now.. May ALLAH help the last Muslim stronghold standing against the Zionist/Dajjali storm.

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I watched it too but Pakistani members on Pdf are claiming USA loves us and they have invited us to be part of peace committe and PM sahib did a photo shoot with Usa leadership. The reality is IF Israel is building strategic relations and axis with India this means this is what the Usa is doing and we have known for decades that Usa is trying to pull india towards its world axis. The Taliban have so far refused to mend relations with the Usa or allow them access to Bagram airbase, but let's say the Taliban is removed and new government comes to power, what if they allow Usa access to Bagram airbase and allow spying on China. That will raise big question marks.

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[VectorZero]

We should take this opportunity to act against BLA networks in IRAN and afghanistan strike them. The regime in Iran has long supported instability in Pakistan, they getting what they deserve.

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

Pakistan situation right now

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[rafale]

There is an actual establishment.

It is a loose but powerful network of senior military leadership, bureaucracy, intelligence, parts of the judiciary, big business and aligned media. Over time it has developed its own institutional interests which often override the preferences of elected governments.

Yes, Historically, its core has had a predominantly Punjabi composition, especially in the higher ranks of the army and bureaucracy, partly because of colonial-era recruitment patterns, population share and better access to state institutions in Punjab. Over time, Urdu-speaking elites who were once very prominent in the early decades have been relatively diluted in this power structure. Pathans have their own significant presence, particularly in the officer corps and security apparatus, and Sindhis and others have also entered the fold depending on shifts in power and patronage. So while there is an ethnic pattern, ethnicity is just one factor and not the primary motivation in how the establishment behaves.

What really holds this establishment together is a shared outlook and set of red lines that go into both a security centric worldview, a particular idea of national identity, continuity of certain economic and foreign policy directions, and a desire to retain decisive influence even when civilians are nominally in charge. Individuals from different ethnic backgrounds can be absorbed into it as long as they align with these institutional priorities. That is why you can see politicians, judges and media figures from multiple provinces effectively working in sync with establishment preferences.

Because it is not a formal body, its influence shows up indirectly. Governments rise and fall based on how acceptable they are to this network. Policy U-turns, sudden corruption drives, media narratives and court decisions often make more sense when viewed through the lens of establishment interests than through party manifestos. At the same time, it is not omnipotent or a uniform entity; there are internal rivalries, generational differences and occasional miscalculations that backfire.

If you understand the establishment as this evolving coalition of institutions and elites, rather than just “the army” or just “Punjabis,” it becomes easier to see why the same patterns repeat across different parties and eras. Faces change, slogans change, and ethnic mix shifts at the margins, but the underlying logic of preserving control over key levers of power remains surprisingly consistent.


So If you are inherently someone with victim complex through upbringing/environment through early years coupled with racism and bias - then yes, you will NEVER understand this concept.

But isn't this really what happens pretty much everywhere, where the number of human beings with power is greater than 1?

I mean, look around, Europe had its share of nobility and posh circles.....America has the the good old capitalists and cultists now taking charge......MAGA is exactly what you described here. Align with them or be left in the dust.

BJP is another example, you align with them or perish. Pretty everywhere where there are lots of people competing for power, you will see an eventual establishment taking shape. In some places it hides behind the facade of proper organized democracy where the commoner feels his vote means something, in other places it is outright in your face dictatorship of powerful elites but you tolerate because they do better than most democracies...i.e. China.

Establishment then, finds itself as the unspoken unwritten organization of power people and it shows up everywhere, where we work (corporate politics) or where we live.