Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[StrategicBear]

Looking at many of your posts in this thread, I hope by now you are a little calmed down and believe in real geopolitics and laws of physics.

I did suggested a preemptive strike, but Khamenei seems to prefer negotiations and stalling tactics rather than seizing the initiative to take out as many enemy forces down as possible.

Now everything seems too late unless if they have hidden nukes or some secret weapon "trump cards" that can turn things around and actually degrade the enemy's military capabilities.

 

[Falcon29]

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[Tehrani021]

What where when

Please don't pretend Iran hasn't rendered most if not all military bases in the region unsafe to use in the past day. Could it have been more, yes, but Iran tried with all it could.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

War doesn’t work that way.
Iran army, the revolution guard can inflict damages to Israel, but that’s too little to have any effect on the outcome. Israel has the backing from the US, Europe, Arabs and more. What backing Iran has?

They just won't let you to see the real scenes.

 

[Hayabusa]

Iran put in a brave effort but it was always a losing battle. After June 2025, one would have thought Iran learned a lesson and purged moles in its establishment but that doesn’t seem to be the case. You can’t win a war or even fight adequately when your political, military and intelligence apparatus is infiltrated and compromised.

Actually, given the above reality, it’s incredible how Iran is still in the ring and fighting.

Which is why, people who are writing off Iran is completely delusional. It's only the second day. The only time we can confirm is when IRGC itself decides to call it off and surrender. Till then, Iran will continue fighting.

 

[Garcia Sea]

As IDF and US bombing spreads across Iran, Iran's counterattacks appear to be rapidly diminishing.
Trump is confident of total victory.
Now that it's clear Iran lacks the courage to retaliate against civilian targets, even if the US massacres large numbers of Iranian civilians, Trump will likely try to turn Iran into another Gaza.
To prevent this, Dubai and Doha's schools, hospitals, and the skyscrapers where the wealthy nest must be resolutely targeted.

 

[Viet]

They just won't let you to see the real scenes.

Only nuke can save Iran.

 

[Falcon29]

Trump threw America into a war on behalf of Israel and the Jewish-American community

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Only nuke can save Iran.

Now with the IRGC fully in charge, and it is likely that they are going to immediately acquire the ICBM and nuclear warheads.

 

[Falcon29]

What was hit in Qatar?

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[Tariq Habib Afridi]

IRAN CONFIRMS MARTYRDOM OF SAYED ALI KHAMENEI

إِنَّا لِلّهِ وَإِنَّـا إِلَيْهِ رَاجِعُونَ

اَللّٰهُمَّ اغْفِرْ لِحَيِّنَا وَمَيِّتِنَا وَشَاهِدِنَا وَغَاۗئِـبِنَا وَصَغِيْرِنَا وَكَبِيْرِنَا وَذَكَرِنَا وَاُنْـثَانَا، اَللّٰهُمَّ مَنْ اَحْيَـيْتَهٗ مِنَّا فَاَحْيِهٖ عَلَى الْاِسْلَامِ وَمَنْ تَوَفَّيْتَهٗ مِنَّا فَتَوَفَّهٗ عَلَى الْاِيْـمَانِ، اَللّٰهُمَّ لَا تَـحْرِمْنَا اَجْرَهٗ وَلَا تُضِلَّـنَا بَعْدَہٗ۔

اے اللہ! ہمارے زندہ اور فوت شدہ کو، ہمارے حاضر اور غائب کو، ہمارے چھوٹے اور بڑے کو، ہمارے مرد اور ہماری عورتوں کو معاف فرمادے۔ یا الہٰی! ہم میں سے جسے تو زندہ رکھے، اسے اسلام پر زندہ رکھ اور ہم میں سے جسے تو فوت کرے، اسے ایمان پر فوت کر۔ اے اﷲ! ہمیں اس (میت) کے اجر سے محروم نہ کرنا اور ہمیں اس کے بعد گمراہ نہ کرنا۔

 

[Immortals]

Where is the IRIAF

Probably destroyed or hidden away for next government.

What are some F-4’s, F-5’s and MiG-29s, and whatever F-14’s are in flyable condition going to do against 300+ USAF and IDF fighter jets?

There was a video released of an airbase containing MiGs being hit. So I’d assume the most risky planes were already taken out the past 24 hours.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

With his fatwa that he banned nukes, Ayatollah Ali Khamaenei has let Iran down.

 

[Hatim]

Iran doesn’t need to get stronger immediately.

It first needs to rebuild its economy and reintegrate with the world. That alone will take 15+ years at the minimum. Its immediate neighbors are weaker than it (Afghanistan, Azerbaijan, and Iraq) and it’s a massive land mass that no one besides the U.S. or China could invade via the ground.

So its priority should be to become a strong economy and start focusing on the technologies of the 22nd century like AI and robotics.

Building missiles or bombs can be done in less than 5 years. Iran first needs to rebuild its nation and that means going back to a neutral state for next couple decades at least.

It tried being a regional power the past 25 years and its economy was such shit that it couldn’t prop itself up, let alone its allies and ultimately imploded under an advanced containment strategy by the worlds superpower.

You can never be a serious independent military power unless you have strong economy that is self reliant. Iran has to go back to the basics.

Israel will keep Iran crippled in Future too. I dont think they will let Iran economically and diplomatically integrate with the Rest of the world.

 

[Tehrani021]

Iran doesn’t need to get stronger immediately.

It first needs to rebuild its economy and reintegrate with the world. That alone will take 15+ years at the minimum. Its immediate neighbors are weaker than it (Afghanistan, Azerbaijan, and Iraq) and it’s a massive land mass that no one besides the U.S. or China could invade via the ground.

So its priority should be to become a strong economy and start focusing on the technologies of the 22nd century like AI and robotics.

Building missiles or bombs can be done in less than 5 years. Iran first needs to rebuild its nation and that means going back to a neutral state for next couple decades at least.

It tried being a regional power the past 25 years and its economy was such shit that it couldn’t prop itself up, let alone its allies and ultimately imploded under an advanced containment strategy by the worlds superpower.

You can never be a serious independent military power unless you have strong economy that is self reliant. Iran has to go back to the basics.

The key word being independent. If we're talking about a surrender, then Iran would cease to be independent. So, while it'll have the ability to become technologically advanced, like say Japan did, it will still be a militarily weak one as long as it abides by whatever it agrees to do with Trump.