Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[r3alist]

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[Aggregate]

China is all set to lose, if IR goes down

Russia, wont give China oil without blackmailing them, Chinese know this quite well

I'd say China needs to be pushed by someone, for the sake of their own good.

Whether Russian blackmail them or Iran blocks Hormuz, someone needs to push the Chinese to get off of their a**es and help the countries fighting their enemies. Its for their own good. At least if China helps Russia, Russia will be able to do something for Iran.

As it stands Russia is fighting about 67 countries and Iran is fighting at least 11, while China does nothing tangible for either.

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

As long as neighbouring states host US bases, Iran should attack them non-stop, their ports and energy infrastructure.

 

[HxnZee]

If Fatah-2 is so capable that it can penetrate all (or most) of the air defence systems, wouldn't it be plausible for Iran to use their best missiles first - the interceptors will still be launched but will miss their target.

This will achieve loss of interceptors while wreaking havoc on the enemy. And then when interceptors have all been wasted, they can follow with lower speed missiles?

 

[r3alist]

Why not comfortable? In Vietnam War the Vietnamese just shoot down USAF planes like no care in the world... Is it because they had Soviet Nuclear Umbrella?

Because that comes with potentially great costs and maybe u.s internal pressure could kick in at some point

 

[r3alist]

I'd say China needs to be pushed by someone, for the sake of their own good.

Whether Russian blackmail them or Iran blocks Hormuz, someone needs to push the Chinese to get off of their a**es and help the countries fighting their enemies. Its for their own good. At least if China helps Russia, Russia will be able to do something for Iran.

As it stands Russia is fighting about 67 countries and Iran is fighting at least 11, while China does nothing tangible for either.

Well the time to do that was years and years ago


How can the Chinese justify to themselves that being a last minute saviour for another country to take on the Americans is in their interest? Remembering that they have Japan India USA and others to simultaneously keep at bay. As well as their own national aspirations

The Chinese are building alternative energy methods all the time, and who says they won't get Iranian oil regardless of what happens


The paf at the end of the day switched to Chinese satellites to great benefit, hindsight is great but the Iranians also made a choice to go their own specific route independently.

 

[Cash gk]

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[mangekyo]

Why not comfortable? In Vietnam War the Vietnamese just shoot down USAF planes like no care in the world... Is it because they had Soviet Nuclear Umbrella?

I don’t know, it’s just my observation. I could be wrong though, could be a matter of capability

 

[Haz]

Because that comes with potentially great costs and maybe u.s internal pressure could kick in at some point

Except you can argue that from the other side as well. Killing US soldiers can make the backlash against Trump even larger given this war is already not very popular with the public and is seen as completely unnecessary. Not to mention this would also give more ammo to his own base of MAGA supporters that voted for him on the assumption of not starting any more wars.

So Iran absolutely needs to kill as many US soldiers as possible, it would help them put pressure against Trump, not help him drum up more support for it.

 

[mangekyo]

First time I see a shelter destroyed

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[PakAl]

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[RescueRanger]

Why not comfortable? In Vietnam War the Vietnamese just shoot down USAF planes like no care in the world... Is it because they had Soviet Nuclear Umbrella?

There is a tremendous difference between the Planes used during the Vietnam war in 1955-1975 and the aircraft used in 2026. The survivability, stand-off, and capabilities have improved exponentially.

 

[Mero]

The Chinese have China and that's all they care about since day one from thousands of years.

China can destroy the financial system, most US banks abandoned their short positions, though three European banks are at risk of total collapse if China buys metals (and maybe oil).

The west wants a short war because their entire economy is running on fumes and could collapse if China decides to destroy it.

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Iran holding out and driving oil prices to over 150 dollars per barrel would aid in the rush from dollars to gold and silver, destroying the financial system first in Europe and spreading elsewhere with perhaps the repo market and debt market. Derivatives are another possible ticking b*mb. This war can be blamed on taking down economies, if China with deep pockets goes long on commodities. Except China does not want to take down the Western economies and to have the blame be on trump for starting the war. China wants to make money with the West.

Putin wants to be your MK Ultra handler. China wants to make money with the west.

 

[tsunset]

Massacre them all

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Well the time to do that was years and years ago


How can the Chinese justify to themselves that being a last minute saviour for another country to take on the Americans is in their interest? Remembering that they have Japan India USA and others to simultaneously keep at bay. As well as their own national aspirations

The Chinese are building alternative energy methods all the time, and who says they won't get Iranian oil regardless of what happens


The paf at the end of the day switched to Chinese satellites to great benefit, hindsight is great but the Iranians also made a choice to go their own specific route independently.

can you run jets, ships, trains run on minerals?

can make sufficient electricity without oil?

dude, some times, I feel you argue, just for the sake of arguing!