Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Tabmachine]

Agree on mitigation. But what mitigations? I have tried to answer in my post.
Problem, we do things on the fly so strategic gaps remain and keep widening.
@Oscar @HAIDER @ghazi52 @VCheng
@Hakikat ve Hikmet @Al-Zakir @Foinikas @Ali_Baba @Arash @Bratva
@MastanKhan
Pls start some meaningful discourse. Nudge better thinkers than me in this forum
We (our thinkers, scholars, planners) should had started yesterday, but here we go.

unity historically has always come through force, one state/caliphate/empire conquered the rest and established a unified/organized system.

prior to the seljuks when there was too much multiplicity, and the arabs were constantly infighting, you had the same situation as today with the crusades and the loss of jerusalem.

the idea that you are going to get many rival power centers and harmonize them is fanciful thinking. The West is only united because its united under the force of the US Government, before that it was in a state of total war. Look at the EU as the US retreats, it is a strategic mess facing extreme difficulty coalescing upon strategic decisions.

China had to go through its civil war to achieve its unity.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

I have 0 subscribers on twitter but twitter still sent me a notification for this video.. thy rarely do that…

bec. it is a propaganda video

 

[VCheng]

In the last two years, I've not seen any political scientist within the Islamic world approach the topic of Gaza with the inaction of 1.8 billion Muslims; no criticism within their own regimes. This alone tells people what they need to know.

Two years? This has been the case for decades and decades, because we ostracize and ridicule anyone who talks calm rationality rather than overly zealous emotionality in dealing with such issues (including on PDF).

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

"I am looking for.."

The sheer arrogance and stupidity of this orange clown that he can decide the leadership of Iran

The fact that President Trump said it aside, is he wrong about Pahlavi?

 

[Ali_Baba]

Poland realizing being like Iran is stupid

Yes - but if you ask Poland, they will say that Iran cannot have nuclear weapons, etc.

 

[Forsvaret]

The sheer arrogance and stupidity of this orange clown that he can decide the leadership of Iran…

Remember Trump is just a stooge. The real clown behind it all is this cartoonish guy:

 

[BHAN85]

 

[PakFactor]

Two years? This has been the case for decades and decades, because we ostracize and ridicule anyone who talks calm rationality rather than overly zealous emotionality in dealing with such issues (including on PDF).

I agree; I purposely chose the two years, as for many of our compatriots, their recall of historical events is limited.

 

[Falcon29]

Why trying to elect a new supreme leader in middle of war?

They targeted the meeting

 

[ghazi52]

DPM Dar says Pakistan ready to facilitate talks between Iran, US​

Says PM Shehbaz, CDF Asim Munir played “very active and positive role” in diplomatic and defence-level engagements aimed at defusing tensions.

Updated about 4 hours ago

 

[hussain0216]

Stupid actions have consequences

Their actions during a time of national crises is TREACHERY, they deserve pain and punishment for this

Personally not a fan of that approach. But if you're trying to protest during a war on your country then you're actually demented and a true traitor, unlike legitimate protestors that were protesting about other things.

 

[RescueRanger]

Wait, they aren’t "negotiating" with US (see Israel) first before getting those nuclear weapons? How smart of them!

Nations are realizing you need the ultimate stick if you want to remain safe

 

[VCheng]

I agree; I purposely chose the two years, as for many of our compatriots, their recall of historical events is limited.

Except when it comes to reliving romanticized past fables of Islamic glory from centuries ago.

We can see the results in Gaza and now Iran over the past two years. Like it or not, that is what reality looks like.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

DPM Dar says Pakistan ready to facilitate talks between Iran, US​

Says PM Shehbaz, CDF Asim Munir played “very active and positive role” in diplomatic and defence-level engagements aimed at defusing tensions.

Updated about 4 hours ago

5-Star is getting involved?

 

[BHAN85]

Trump says US will cut all trade with Spain​

President Trump ⁠says the United States plans ⁠cut off all trade with Spain after ⁠the European country refused to let the US military use its bases ‌for missions linked to strikes on Iran.

He also chastised the United Kingdom for similar decisions.

“Spain has been terrible,” Trump told reporters during a meeting with German ⁠Chancellor Friedrich Merz.

The president ⁠added he told US Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent to “cut ⁠off all dealings” with Spain.

“We’re going ⁠to cut ⁠off all trade with Spain. We don’t want anything to ‌do with Spain,” said Trump.

Trump is just talking to corrupt far left populist politicians in the language they best understand: money.

If someone thinks that Spanish far left give a fck about Iran war, he's plain wrong.

Those illiterate hypocrites can't even locate Iran in a world map.

They are just taking advantage of news about war to handle voters emotions, and keep robbing tax money, that's all.