Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Ibbi32]

My God, Hegseth's presser. Gone mental. A lot of chest thumping.

Also claimed US Sub torpedoiny Iranian ship was first torpedo kill since WW2.

We know that aint true either....

Maybe for us navy but pns hangor and brits already got sub kills

 

[mulj]

First of all, show me where I say Iran will lose and the US will win?

I said this war is pointless, and some posts ago, I said Trump has an attention span of a 5-year-old, and he will lose interest in it in 5 days (probably a bit more than that), and I said that this would not change Iran in any way, shape, or form.

Secondly, where do I say the US will impose its view on Iran? Even Trump doesn't think he can impose his view on Iran. If so, Trump would not go on international TV and basically beg for an uprising inside Iran. If they think they can impose their will, why the uprising?

Dude, you are saying a lot of stuff on a position I do NOT hold, and basically believe this is what I think because I am an American, that's the exact definition of biased.....

There where you said that you will not abandon bases in gulf, how else you will come back in those unless you win?

 

[mangekyo]

There is no need for carpet bombing. Precision strikes are far more effective.

It’s used as a tactic to pressure the government and push the armed forces to surrender. When homes are targeted, people are killed or injured and many become homeless. At the same time hospitals and infrastructure get destroyed, so the government has to deal with a huge humanitarian crisis but has fewer resources to respond. Healthcare, housing, logistics, and civil administration all get overwhelmed, which increases the overall pressure on the state.

 

[RescueRanger]

Iranian Frigate IRNS Dena was part of 3 Iranian vessles that had visited India as part of an International fleet review.

The frigate had left India and was returning to Iran when it was attacked in International waters off the cost of Sri Lanka.

 

[Hayabusa]

I am bookmarking this. Iran may not have a proper airforce, but completely uncontested will still be a challenge.

 

[StrategicBear]

How will Iran enforce this blockade, their navy has been destroyed and they can't hide SSM launchers from prying satellites that close to the strait.

Anti-Ship Missile Launchers are the most easiest to hide compared to BM launchers. If you look at the geography map of Iran, you can see how mountainous the terrain is so it's quite easy to hide some launchers in caves, then "shoot-and-scoot".

Iran also has decoys to waste enemy missiles, and Iran produces dozens if not hundreds of such anti-ship missiles a month in secure underground mountain sites, and caves too, with production sites so dispersed the enemy can't discover and get to all the targets unless if the enemy has persistent drone surveillance ability(which Iran is shooting down actively)...

 

[Watandar]

I would like to request respected members mulj and j.hungary to either end this back and forth or take it to another thread.

 

[irani]

 

[tsunset]

I am bookmarking this. Iran may not have a proper airforce, but completely uncontested will still be a challenge.

Rerum Novarum is either zionist propaganda or Lebanese Jew loving christian cuck mouthpiece

 

[Comandante]

Iran just needs to maintain the air defense threat. The point is that the US Air Force never feels safe,

 

[RescueRanger]

Iran just needs to maintain the air defense threat. The point is that the US Air Force never feels safe,

What air defence threat?

 

[kobra]

This is all because Iran doesn't have much SAMs to engage the massive amount of fighter planes this unholy tag team from hell brought into the battlefield.

Iran knows that the two "satans", Israel and USA will come at them with hundreds of fighter planes, so they should have prepared to build or buy at least a few dozen S-300-equivalent SAM batteries totaling up to 2000 SAMs. This would allow Iran to engage a minimum of 1000 enemy aircraft(since 2 missiles will be fired at one) after dispersing those radars and batteries at various sites.

And since Israel will attack from long-range with ALBMs, radar must be protected or Iranian CAP with AWACs should patrol the border with Iraq to detect ALBM launches at a distance.

Complete Air superiority is a dream... Israil has complete access to Lebanons airpspace since decades, whats the are of lebanon compare to Iran? Not even 1%, yet Hzb fired 40-50 rockets daily for months until ceasefire happened. Even during ceasefire, israil daily bombarded ammunition and missile stores as per their claim, not even few hours and hzb is back to firing rockets, drones with same speed.

Israil has advantage of quick response time, constant drone surveillance, higher land vs aircraft ratio...


How long US can sustain air campaign as close by bases are disfunctional and they have to bring jets from israil using airbridge. IR taking down hermes and mq9 at such good speed, surrounding radars and surveillance are hurt, not many options left fror Pedos. Iran has to fire 15-20 missiles daily at enemy for sometime and that will be ok considering their circumstamces.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Iranian Frigate IRNS Dena was part of 3 Iranian vessles that had visited India as part of an International fleet review.
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The frigate had left India and was returning to Iran when it was attacked in International waters off the cost of Sri Lanka.

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cost will be paid by Pak.!

they will blackmail us now with any return they will get from the USA!

this so EFFFFFing hypocritical mother man!

 

[RescueRanger]

Sources close to the Democrats in the Senate: US War Powers resolution (powers to stop Trump from war in Iran) are not likely to pass. Source:CNN

 

[M. Sarmad]

it is their choices that have brought Iran to where it is today. Where it goes from here remains to be seen.

It depends on perspective...

Beyond sectarian lines and geopolitical chessboards, many Muslims see Iran as standing where it it must... refusing to bow to the Taghut/forces of evil.... facing a far stronger force, fully aware that defeat or death may follow...

This is not mere politics but echo the lingering pulse of Battle of Karbala, where the measure of a stand is not victory, but the refusal to kneel to Evil ...