Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Pakistani Dragon]

A prudent and detailed analysis....

Iran Will Not Lose The War​

Pravin Sawney has been wrong on Ukraine, Venezuela and Iran so far.

 

[Flotilla]

This claim it's the first submarine kill against a surface ship since WW2 is incorrect. INS Khukri was sunk by PNS Hangor in 1971. Anyways back to topic.

And also Argentinian Navy General Belgrano, but when a US Secretary of Defense aside from Cheney, Panetta, Rumsfeld, Mattis, Austin and Hegseth have lied???

 

[Foinikas]

This claim it's the first submarine kill against a surface ship since WW2 is incorrect. INS Khukri was sunk by PNS Hangor in 1971. Anyways back to topic.

Remember Belgrano in 1982?

 

[Desert]

plus, I would be happy if Iran drops hundreds of drones on Cyprus, that nasty Island has always been a dagger in the back to the islamic countries and a big base to nato and u.k

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Iran should have recruited agents in Egypt .. we have tons of israeli tourists in Sinai. getting rid of those rats in Sinai would have been good.

I'm Egyptian and I would have approved that.

What is stopping you from carrying out such an action then?

 

[Panzerkiel]

This claim it's the first submarine kill against a surface ship since WW2 is incorrect. INS Khukri was sunk by PNS Hangor in 1971. Anyways back to topic.

... And let's not forget Belgrano by Conqueror during Falklands War.

 

[KingQamaR]

Seems like isolated IRGC commanders are just following pre-war plans hitting pre-designated targets as the chain of command has now gone.

Hi Tom Cruise

I can’t stop having visions, of F-14 vs Iranian Sukhoi F-57 fight scene

Great movie.

 

[RescueRanger]

Thats why am refraining .its total fanboyism no reason just emotions

The best ones are "according to the defence analyst I follow on X/YouTube" we should 100% use tactical low yield nukes...

The "defence analyst"

 

[Desert]

What is stopping you from carrying out such an action then?

I live in the african part of Egypt .. Sinai in Asia and I have no resources or ability to do so but I would have done so If someone supported me or other Egyptians.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Remember Belgrano in 1982?

Folks, pay attention!

This is the first warship to be sunk by a US SUB since WWII. Some of ya's all been taking the statement out of context.

Yes, many of us who do pay attention are aware of the Indian ship sunk by the Pak Navy as well as the Belgrano. We're specifically talking about a US sub.

 

[BHAN85]

Chinese intelligence company tracking US military assets during Iran operations

Shanghai-based MizarVision has been publicly posting satellite imagery of American military movements throughout Operation Epic Fury, including locations of F-22 fighters, command and control aircraft, and aircraft carrier strike groups - with some sites subsequently targeted by Iranian retaliation.

flightglobal.com

MizarVision - Open-source GEO-INTELLIGENCE

www.mizarvision.com

Has Someone Mizarvision account or knows in what weibo account they publish pics?

 

[Ali_Baba]

So, they attacked a ship that was not engaged in active military operations of any type, and was very far away from the theatre of combat, unlike American ships.

So, not really an "achievement" ...

 

[SABRE]

We just sent two ships

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We came, we saw, we left!

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

I live in the african part of Egypt .. Sinai in Asia and I have no resources or ability to do so but I would have done so If someone supported me or other Egyptians.

Ahh....so that's what's holding you back. No desire to act on your own then.

Gotcha' my man.

 

[Comandante]

You are running on 2 assumptions.

1.) GCC doesn't understand the risk when it offers its base to the US.
2.) Iran will "win" by playing a long game.

Well, GCC knows the risk when they offered their base to the US, it's not like "Oh, we don't know basingthe US fleet here in Bahrain will make someone attack us" Unless either all those GCC administrators are extremely incompetent, they know the risk involved, the issue here is why they ask the US to base their naval and air fleet in their country in the first place. That's already shown during the first Gulf War forward, when Jordanian land was attacked, and their pilot was actually and literally burned alive. The key is geopolitical cooperation. I can write an entire article on this, but I will just be short here. They needed the US presence in the region. Because of the trade route, until China or someone else can guarantee the security at sea, they will need the Ameircan present. And China is not interested in becoming the world Police.

Second point being, nobody would win, not Israel, not the US, and definitely not Iran, if we are playing the long game. First of all, what is winning? If by US win is an Iranian regime change, that may or may not happen, not holding my hopes up, if by Israel win, that means a destruction of Iran, then that's NOT going to happen. And if Iran wins, it's a destruction of Israel, that's not going to happen, or pushing the US out of the region? Well, that's not really up to them now, is it, and as long as Isreal exist, it's not going to happen, even if we are talking about remaining as it is, minding its own business, how's that a win for Iran?

Now the question is, what would Iran do? Hence, the dilemma I suggested. You want to keep attacking the US and Israel assets? If that is the way you try to go punch on punch, Iran is not going to get anywhere because they can't touch the US, even if you can neutralise Israel, US weapons in the region are just one month away. And trust me when I say it, with 11 aircraft carriers, sending a pair each, you can have 4 to 5 rotations that last a lot longer than 1 month. How about attacking other GCC nations and spreading it equally? Well, you may send fear to the GCC, and they stop supporting the US. Well, sure, never say never, but you have an equally, if not a better chance, to further piss off the GCC nation by bombing their country.

I disagree. Iran has no choice. Iran has enough weapons now. US bases are typically empty. They are attacking from Jordan and aircraft carriers. They couldn't suppress Iran in the first few days, so they will adapt. They had complete air superiority in Vietnam, they had to leave because of the ground forces. Currently the US is planning a 2-3 day war, they don't have 300,000-500,000 ground forces that they can deploy to defend the strongest. Israel is far away.