Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[hembo]

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[mangekyo]

I could say the same about the counter argument.

Which part of it is strawman? Why not tell me where I am wrong and we can debate this respectfully

 

[El Sidd]

Good neighbours won’t allow U.S bases on their land which will be used on its neighbour.

So far very little evidence exists that these bases are being used for operations against Iran.

 

[Hayabusa]

Where are you all getting this info?

I thought I wrote this somewhere wrongly.

But from what I read 400kg of 60 percent uranium is enough to make a dirty nuke. (Release of radiation I assume).

 

[RescueRanger]

dude go to the arabic coffe shop thread and read his comments

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Please don't make my moderation job harder.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

There only one Haaq.

no.... depends how far you can see

munafiq ata kahan say hai?

 

[RescueRanger]

I thought I wrote this somewhere wrongly.

But from what I read 400kg of 60 percent uranium is enough to make a dirty nuke. (Release of radiation I assume).

Source?

 

[RescueRanger]

Which part of it is strawman? Why not tell me where I am wrong and we can debate this respectfully

I don't want to waste bandwidth debating. Because your country is at war and I read your emotions. But I am looking at this objectively and lashing out at erstwhile friendly or neutral nations is not a workable strategy.

 

[Kyussis]

Fun fact 2. 100% Jews are allergic to peace.

They are only allergic to peace when they are doing all the killing

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Nuclear facility at lspahan

Good. Let them use fuel and munitions on empty buildings till their hearts content!

 

[SaltFlats]

Sarhang Pakistan is an easy scapegoat for Iran's troubles. Is it Pakistani Shias who are launching missile after missile at the GCC and Israel while Tehran is being reduced to rubble? Is there any shortage of fanatical Shias in Iraq, Syria and Lebanon for IR to use? Was the Syrian army under Assad composed of Pakistanis? Did Pakistanis took down the Pahlavi Dynasty and ushered in the Islamic Regime? Heck, Pakistan enjoyed objectively better relations with Pahlavi Iran than in any any point during the IR.

Sarhang For what it's worth I have no love lost for the Islamic Republic and I understand why a decent majority of Iranian people despise but for the most part it is held up by the well organised and armed minority of Iranian people (IRGC and and other state institutions) and not by foreign support, Pakistan is not even a secondary player in this.

 

[030292]

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good, let them feel the pain, collapse their heinous economic system, west has had enough of luxurious lifestyle since ww2, about time they feel the heat for causing unimaginable pain in muslim countries.

 

[Ali_Baba]

How long do you think GCC would tolerate this?

Good neighbours won’t allow U.S bases on their land which will be used on its neighbour.
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The GCC countries will need to review what value these bases bring to them. At the first sign of trouble, the Americans vacate them entirely, so who are these bases meant to serve ??

They need to get together for collective security framework and equip themselves to be able to defend themselves properly on their own, and then ask the Americans to "leave" as it does not serve their interests anymore. This act of buying overpriced/over inflated weapons thinking that this buys them security guarantees from the countries that sell to them has proven to be a false and hollow strategy.

What Iran has done, successfully I think, is bring down the entire framework of the security framework between the collective GCC and the USA. They will rethink, and make decisions but imho, it won't be to get more into bed with the USA, they cannot get any closer than what they have, and it has not worked for them.

Pakistan can help in this regard with organisational elements of trying to patch together a proper framework for these countries, and so can others like Türkiye and even China for the GCC to truly try and become independent.

 

[RescueRanger]

Pakistan is not even a secondary player in this.

Let's leave Pakistan out of this. Thanks.

 

[mangekyo]

I don't want to waste bandwidth debating. Because your country is at war and I read your emotions. But I am looking at this objectively and lashing out at erstwhile friendly or neutral nations is not a workable strategy.

Wtf are you talking about? I never lashed out at GCC. I am saying GCC, especially Saudi Arabia has a common interest with Iran to remove those bases.

You do realise saudis vision for the future is threatened by both the US and UAE?

 

[StormBreaker]

Let's not forget what happened to Gazans. They aren't children of a lesser god.
GCC civilians are equally complicit in my eyes because they didn't stop their leaders who are complicit in Gaza genocide. Infact most GCC civilians hold a pro west sentiment. It's a brilliant strategy to let them suffer from thrist and starvation it will immediately stop a war imposed on Iran. And a hell lot of global blacklash on Israel and US.

In the same way, Whole of humanity is responsible for not keeping their leaders within the limits of humanity. You can not pick and choose responsible