Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[kobra]

I fully understand the Iranian sentiment behind it and I fully support them.

I am just questioning the logic of dragging every in it, and that too against Iran.

In Pakistan, we say Indians infiltrate Pakistan via Iran. We say India finances terror via Afghanistan. We say Afghanistan trains and supports TTP/BLA terriers, and we also say, Zion is behind supporting India against Pakistan (we can probably expand this list based on conspiracy theories).

So, when Pakistan launches Operation Ghazab lil-Haq, it attacks Afghanistan. It doesn't launch airstrikes on India, Iran and Zion. But here, Iran is just attacking everyone like Saddam Hussain did in 1990-1991.

It feels like Iran sees no hope of winning, so just wants to take everyone down with it.

Iran is not attacking every one. Only the countries where bases of US are used against it. If you own a house and have rented out the upper portion to a tenant who is throwing stones at your neighbour, you are either responsible somehow. Either throw him out, stop it from doing or be ready to recieve stones at your upper portion. Its completely logical.

 

[StrategicBear]

Correct.

If possible, Iran should prepare an ambush to shoot down those B-2s. Can't wait to see their prized "stealth" bomber going down for the first time in history. Its RCS is supposed to be lower than F-117 that the Serbs shot down, so it can be a huge win for the IRGC if it can be shot down.

 

[Cygnus]

I was more surprised by the comments and the amount of likes those comments have

Being an Instagrammer girl in the gulf just reminds one and only well known thing. ...

 

[RescueRanger]

If possible, Iran should prepare an ambush to shoot down those B-2s.

With what?

 

[El Sidd]

So, when Pakistan launches Operation Ghazab lil-Haq, it attacks Afghanistan. It doesn't launch airstrikes on India, Iran and Zion.

Because Iran has capacity to do that and Pakistan does not have any such capacity.

 

[kobra]

Look at the state of Bahrain and Kuwait! They thought US will save them and put them in priority, Their value is not more than toilet paper for US in comparision to Israil..

All these Gulf states were paying protection money to a mafia boss US hoping that it will protect them when shit hit the fan.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Well if the Iranian missiles/drones are supposedly doing insane damage in Israel I would expect the Ben Gurion runway to not be usable..unless you think the Iranians don't know what they are doing when it comes to targeting.

You can easily land a fighter jet on a road next to the base but not something big.

FWIW, we were suspecting and it's now being reported the Russians have been providing Iran with targeting data.

There might be a reason why Ben Gurion has not been hit while a couple US radar stations have.

 

[Pak-Warrior]

The nations in question, GCC and Jordan, were shooting down overflying missiles targeting Israel both at the start of this war and during last year's, rather than "defending" against them.

Did these nations similarly shoot down Israeli overflights (manned or unmanned)?

If there is a difference in the way Iranian and Israeli overflying miIitary assets were handled, then you have the answer to your most nebulous little riddle.

Agreed as far as Jordan is concerned.

GCC countries are not even in the path of Iran to Israel missile strikes except KSA. So they possibly cannot hit any Iranian missile going towards Israel.

As far as US bases are concerned, GCC specifically told US to not use their country's bases. This is most what they can do given their strength. They cannot kick out americans out of their country. Every country wants sanction-free and powerful economy. Nobody wants to end up like Venezuela, so there are very limited choices with these countries themselves. Even relatively powerful countries like Turkey, South Korea, Japan and many others have US bases. Not necessarily all these countries want to host US bases but they will have very tough future if any country goes stands against US hegemony. Remember, Pakistan provided supply route and airspace and possible an airbase against US operations against Taliban 1.0. Considering the fact that Taliban 1.0 was staunch ally of Pakistan. But we had no choice but to assist United States in its massacre despite us being nuclear power.

 

[FUB]

For those of you who were not old enough to remember

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[Hamartia Antidote]

Eight months after the 12 day war , we still have not seen a complete picture of the destruction in Israel .

So what happened to all the Chinese satellite companies?

You know the ones showing "realtime" pics of US Aircraft carriers?


Where's their Israel pics?
Bueller? Bueller? Bueller?

 

[Hayabusa]

Not sustainable for the IAF.

True. Give it another week and they will start choosing targets both on Iran and missiles chosen by Iran.

 

[rishi7887]

Never in my wildest of dreams did I think I'll agree with Maj Gen G D Bakshi.

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[tsunset]

I fully understand the Iranian sentiment behind it and I fully support them.

I am just questioning the logic of dragging every in it, and that too against itself.

In Pakistan, we say Indians infiltrate Pakistan via Iran. We say India finances terror via Afghanistan. We say Afghanistan trains and supports TTP/BLA terriers, and we also say, Zion is behind supporting India against Pakistan (we can probably expand this list based on conspiracy theories).

So, when Pakistan launches Operation Ghazab lil-Haq, it attacks Afghanistan. It doesn't launch airstrikes on India, Iran and Zion. But here, Iran is just attacking everyone like Saddam Hussain did in 1990-1991.

It feels like Iran sees no hope of winning, so just wants to take everyone down with it.

Pakistan is not threatened of regime change or getting its presidents, ministers and religious figures cowardly assassinated with school girls massacred and stadiums blown up and told to surrender unconditionally by Afghanistan

 

[VCheng]

I'm just trying to get everyone to see both sides and their opinions. We don't have to agree but we must respect people's rights to different opinions.

That is a valiant but futile effort since it assumes rationality of thought, which is simply not valid for religious zealobots of all persuasions. (Just look at how I am treated by most here, as a warning example, right up into the most senior levels of management.)

That is why matters of personal faith must NEVER be mixed with matters of state and international geopolitics. NEVER.

Otherwise what happens is exactly what we see here.

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

Iran is not attacking every one. Only the countries where bases of US are used against it. If you own a house and have rented out the upper portion to a tenant who is throwing stones at your neighbour, you are either responsible somehow. Either throw him out, stop it from doing or be ready to recieve stones at your upper portion. Its completely logical.

Now imagine, that tenant is not there, and the room is empty, but you've thrown a brick through the window anyway because they were there previously.