Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Master Chief said:
With this "Kheibar" type of cluster missile, around what stage of traversal/trajectory does it fragment into multiple munitions? And would a single interceptor or multiple interceptors require expenditure to stop that group of fragmented munitions?
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Interesting question. Im not entirely sure so would hate to give half baked info. Maybe someone can answer here. I will find the answer for you.
 
Bengal71 said:
Yeah, I think the same. No way the Kurds can seriously commit to it. Iran will be a meat grinder for them.
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They will definitely be utilized. Make no mistake about it. There’s no escaping this reality. The US government has put a gun to their head. The PKK has been expelled from Syria, has been militarily defeated in Turkey, and has had to give up their entire infrastructure and network in Northern Iraq near the Turkish border. They are completely exposed at this moment. Butt naked. Just three years ago, some of them were dreaming of a Kurdish state with a coastline along the Mediterranean Sea.

In 2026, they have no option left other than to fight. The question remains whether they will receive air support and coverage from the US military.

The Americans have to involve the PKK. They are their main figurine - not the official parties in KGB and not even the Iranian Kurdish parties.

The PKK has historically excelled in one area: uniting various factions, coalitions, and parties under a single umbrella. They achieve this either through the use of brutal force or by persuading them ideologically.

They are the most crucial component in this entire scenario. If you observe closely, they are employing the same tactics in Iran that enabled them to establish their presence on the ground in Syria. The Kurdish parties in Iran have now convened at a table, similar to the Syrian YPG/SDF. However, just as the SDF was a front actually controlled by the PKK, these Iranian parties are likely to vanish soon as well.

Iran exerts some influence over these parties, and the history of Iranian Kurds has significant differences from that of Turkish-Kurdish or Arab-Kurdish histories. Nevertheless, it is now 2026, the US is involved, the PKK is free to engage, and the Iranian state has been weak for decades, creating opportunities for maneuvering.
 
Why the Abraham Lincoln carrier is not under serious attack by Iran right now is beyond me. Maybe behind-the-scenes backdoor negotiations are ongoing now to give Trump an off-ramp to deescalate while still respecting Iran's red lines?

Remember, Khamenei just got martyred, therefore any new talks must acknowledge Iran's red lines concerning enrichment and BM rights, so the talks should focus only on getting a long-lasting ceasefire. If Israelis oppose, then hammer them some more until they fold.
 
Here in Spain, press are saying that tonight Trump will hit hard Irán.

RescueRanger told about deployment of helicopters in UAE.

Could be a signal that Trump is considering a heliborne assault like Venezuela in any Iranian island to show off and try to pressure Irán Government to open Strait of Hormuz?
 

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Eşbah said:
They will definitely be utilized. Make no mistake about it. There’s no escaping this reality. The US government has put a gun to their head. The PKK has been expelled from Syria, has been militarily defeated in Turkey, and has had to give up their entire infrastructure and network in Northern Iraq near the Turkish border. They are completely exposed at this moment. Butt naked. Just three years ago, some of them were dreaming of a Kurdish state with a coastline along the Mediterranean Sea.

In 2026, they have no option left other than to fight. The question remains whether they will receive air support and coverage from the US military.

The Americans have to involve the PKK. They are their main figurine - not the official parties in KGB and not even the Iranian Kurdish parties.

The PKK has historically excelled in one area: uniting various factions, coalitions, and parties under a single umbrella. They achieve this either through the use of brutal force or by persuading them ideologically.

They are the most crucial component in this entire scenario. If you observe closely, they are employing the same tactics in Iran that enabled them to establish their presence on the ground in Syria. The Kurdish parties in Iran have now convened at a table, similar to the Syrian YPG/SDF. However, just as the SDF was a front actually controlled by the PKK, these Iranian parties are likely to vanish soon as well.

Iran exerts some influence over these parties, and the history of Iranian Kurds has significant differences from that of Turkish-Kurdish or Arab-Kurdish histories. Nevertheless, it is now 2026, the US is involved, the PKK is free to engage, and the Iranian state has been weak for decades, creating opportunities for maneuvering.
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A good piece to read ..

 
The Iranians need to think very hard before engaging the aircraft carrier.

An attack on the carrier and inflicting damage would mean escalation ladder going up multifolds. Keeping it an arm distance is one thing but inflicting damage is another thing.
 
Olympus81 said:
The Iranians need to think very hard before engaging the aircraft carrier.

An attack on the carrier and inflicting damage on it would mean escalation ladder going up multifolds. Keeping it an arm distance is one thing but inflicting damage is another thing.
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Demons killing their Supreme leader along with his family was what rung of the escalation ladder?
 
Master Chief said:
With this "Kheibar" type of cluster missile, around what stage of traversal/trajectory does it fragment into multiple munitions? And would a single interceptor or multiple interceptors require expenditure to stop that group of fragmented munitions?
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what i think interception algorithm does not recognize smaller warheads as threat, one or to two video i saw the BUS gets hit by interceptor but cluster was not engaged, they would have to empty all the magazine to engage a single cluster.

may be that is why they are not engaging

its a guestimate!
 
925boy said:
Conclusion?

China has probably never had a better chance of attacking Taiwain succesfully than now:

1. No US carriers are available in south China sea area.

2. US Ammunition and interceptor levels are low and non existent(at worst soon).
3.US military is preoccupied with the war against Iran and its ME infrastructure is damaged and will need years to restore back to full capacity.

If China waits for some more years to attack Taiwain,and it loses that ensuing war, its China's fault
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I wrote about it before. I’ll do a short version again. US wants to replace China as the global manufacturing base. The only way it can do that is with AI, and AI needs energy. If the US wins this war, they will control almost of the worlds oil flow. Then the only independent country left that can sell oil to China is Russia. This war is an existential war for China. But the chinese are unfortunately not the warrior type.
 
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