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[Serendipity]

People are beginning to ask the real questions now. This narrative is a chance for an off ramp and greater unity in the region. Will the GCC decide to become independent of foreign forces? That is the ideal scenario but requires capacity building.

UAE billionaire asks Trump: Who authorised turning our region into a war zone?​

UAE billionaire asks Trump: Who authorised turning our region into a war zone?

Khalaf Al Habtoor, chairman of Al Habtoor Group, says the Gulf and Middle Eastern countries, and their people, are not arenas for settling scores among the great powers

www.khaleejtimes.com

 

[Falcon29]

People are beginning to ask the real questions now. This narrative is a chance for an off ramp and greater unity in the region. Will the GCC decide to become independent of foreign forces? That is the ideal scenario but requires capacity building.

UAE billionaire asks Trump: Who authorised turning our region into a war zone?​

UAE billionaire asks Trump: Who authorised turning our region into a war zone?

Khalaf Al Habtoor, chairman of Al Habtoor Group, says the Gulf and Middle Eastern countries, and their people, are not arenas for settling scores among the great powers

www.khaleejtimes.com

Arabs should prepare for a post-US order. As an American born and raised I can say the population is radicalized and extreme. And I live in wealthy areas where you'd think things should be okay. There is a tense environment due to rising mental health issues.

But more importantly I'm convinced US establishment is trying to fundamentally change America into a theocracy. We will see it get worse in 2028 Trump will not cede power.

May as well seek security needs from European powers that are more stable and united around democracy. US will no longer provide security. It's just ruining the region on behalf of Israel before it lets Israel handle the entire ME file.

 

[Serendipity]

In truth American democracy has been under siege for a long time. Manufactured consent is still manufactured. Social media has exposed zionst propaganda for what it is. The epstein files have further validated this. Thr common American does suffer, knowingly or unknowingly, for the support given to zion, and doesnt have radicalized evangelical views. I now see NIH funding was cut to save for this war. It is rare that the citizens of a nation are robbed of so much for the sake of foreigners.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Arabs should prepare for a post-US order. As an American born and raised I can say the population is radicalized and extreme. And I live in wealthy areas where you'd think things should be okay. There is a tense environment due to rising mental health issues.

But more importantly I'm convinced US establishment is trying to fundamentally change America into a theocracy. We will see it get worse in 2028 Trump will not cede power.

May as well seek security needs from European powers that are more stable and united around democracy. US will no longer provide security. It's just ruining the region on behalf of Israel before it lets Israel handle the entire ME file.

I think both Egypt and KSA will become the two Arab nations to obtain nuke + ICBM.

And expect a US civil war if Trump refuses to step down, and the whole world is preparing for a post-US order.

 

[Solomon2]

Winds and stakes: Which is more dangerous? And who do we wish victory to?​

[Original in Arabic]
Ahmed Yaqoub Baqer
07-03-2026

Messages circulating on smartphones ask who we hope will win the current war between the Zionists, along with America, and Iran. Some of these messages offer naive answers based on sectarian wishes or personal ambitions for victory for one side or the other. However, Prince Turki Al-Faisal was more objective in a widely circulated video, where he explained that there are three agendas in our region. The first is the Iranian agenda, which is based on exporting the Iranian revolution and the principle of the Guardianship of the Islamic Jurist. The second agenda is that of Netanyahu and the Zionists who occupy Muslim lands and holy sites. Netanyahu has expressed his intention to expand in order to establish Greater Israel. The third agenda is that of the Evangelical Christians who demand the return of the Jews to Greater Israel, because it will lead to the return of Christ and ignite the Battle of Armageddon, in which the Evangelicals will triumph over the evildoers (meaning us).

If we consider these three agendas, we find that the Iranian agenda succeeded at the beginning, and Iran controlled parts of Lebanon, Yemen, and Iraq. They are now experiencing a clear decline, and they were expelled from Syria after Iran stood with the criminal Bashar, and they killed more than a million Muslims. As for the second agenda, it succeeded in occupying Muslim lands and holy sites, and killing tens of thousands of Muslims in Gaza and the West Bank. Its proponents expressed their intention to expand and occupy other parts of neighboring Arab countries to establish Greater Israel. Netanyahu stated that after the end of their war with Iran, the way will be open to conclude the Abraham Accords and normalization with the rest of the Arab countries.

As is evident, there is a great convergence between the Jewish and Evangelical agendas. The American ambassador to the Zionist gang state (Huckabee) revealed the conviction of the Evangelical Christians who support the Zionist ambition to occupy more Arab lands to establish the Greater State of Israel, which will include parts of Egypt, Saudi Arabia, the Levant, Iraq, and Kuwait. He said that this is the right of the Jews that came in the Torah. The ambassador did not apologize for his statement that affects the sovereignty and dignity of the Arab countries concerned. The American Secretary of Commerce and others demanded the collection of millions from the oil countries, while the American Secretary of Defense, Hegseth, wished to rebuild Solomon’s Temple in place of Al-Aqsa.

The current situation is witnessing an almost complete collapse of the Iranian agenda and the Iranian military power. The war and what preceded it proved that they are infiltrated to the core. They have not been able to identify the sources of infiltration since the assassination of Soleimani, Al-Muhandis, Haniyeh, and the nuclear scientists. Nuclear sites deep in the mountains were bombed, and finally the Supreme Leader and the army commanders were assassinated, and most of the missile platforms, ammunition depots, and raw materials were destroyed.

After Iranian ballistic missiles failed to make any difference in the ongoing war, the Iranians found no other option but to expand the scope of the war by bombing the Gulf states and closing the Strait of Hormuz to stop the export of gas and oil, in order to create an economic crisis that would push Europe and China to intervene to stop the air strikes, thus giving the Iranians time to repair their military situation.

As for the Zionist-American agenda, despite its military superiority, its demand to change the regime in Iran to a regime loyal to it may be very difficult, and if the regime change does not succeed, it is expected that Iran will regain its strength with its allies in a short period of time.

In conclusion, all three agendas are dangerous for us, and I believe, and God knows best, that the most dangerous party to the nation is the one with the agenda who will ultimately prevail and be able to impose his agenda on it. Therefore, the Arabs must prepare for him now.

 

[Serendipity]

If this onslaught continues for many more days, let alone weeks or months, I will almost start to feel sorry for the Iranian regime if not genuinely sorry for them.

Do you feel there will be a push to expel foreign bases after this conflict. Especially with statements like the one from Lindsey criticizing gulf allies? Any other updates from your side. Want to know both sides of the story.

 

[Haz]

Do you feel there will be a push to expel foreign bases after this conflict. Especially with statements like the one from Lindsey criticizing gulf allies? Any other updates from your side. Want to know both sides of the story.

No, unfortunately. There is no sign of this happening at all right now, and I strongly doubt it will either. Neither the governments of those countries in power or the US have even hinted they are thinking about it.

 

[mythbuster]

No, unfortunately. There is no sign of this happening at all right now, and I strongly doubt it will either. Neither the governments of those countries in power or the US have even hinted they are thinking about it.

Something has to change , present security architecture of the gulf states is not viable in the long run.

 

[_Arabia_]

Sorry, I was away on a short trip to Spain with my family over the weekend.

We are about 10 days into the war.

KSA appears to be the main winner. Our oil and gas infrastructure is practically 99.98% intact. The country is not dependent on the Strait of Hormuz due to its extensive oil and gas infrastructure, including the East-West pipeline and direct access to the Red Sea.

The rise in oil prices has also made KSA the biggest beneficiary.

There has been zero damage to KSA, including Prince Sultan Air Base. There were two casualties caused by debris falling near Al-Kharj (one Bangladeshi and one Indian).

There has also been very little overall damage in the smaller GCC states, with virtually no local civilian or military casualties other than 3–4 Kuwaiti soldiers (martyrs).

The most affected areas have been US bases in Bahrain, Kuwait, Qatar, and the UAE, many of which were already evacuated.

Life has returned to normal in much of the smaller GCC states. For example, football league matches are scheduled to be played again in the UAE today.

 

[Haz]

Something has to change , present security architecture of the gulf states is not viable in the long run.

I mean sure, if it were up to me or the common citizens there. But its not.

And I'm not sure what you mean specifically regarding the security architecture currently present, because even without any of the Gulf US bases there, Israel would still strike and the US can still attack and wreck havoc regardless from it's carriers and using fuel tankers from Israeli bases. Nothing fundamentally will change unless Israel is destroyed for good unfortunately.

 

[_Arabia_]

Do you feel there will be a push to expel foreign bases after this conflict. Especially with statements like the one from Lindsey criticizing gulf allies? Any other updates from your side. Want to know both sides of the story.

Why should they be “expelled”? Those US bases in the smaller GCC states (there are no US bases in KSA and there have not been any for more than 20 years) originated from geopolitical events following Saddam Hussein’s invasion of Kuwait in 1990 and the subsequent First Gulf War.

Afterwards, the US military presence remained because the GCC is one of the world’s most strategic regions, located at the crossroads of global trade and aviation routes. It is also one of the richest regions in terms of natural resources. The foremost global power, the United States, naturally wanted a strategic footprint in the region.

Another reason is that the rulers of the smaller GCC states have historically feared potential annexation by larger neighbors such as KSA.

These small GCC states have historically been part of various civilizations, empires, caliphates, kingdoms, sultanates, imamates, emirates, and sheikhdoms founded or ruled by dynasties originating from what is now modern-day KSA. Even the House of Saud historically controlled parts of the region during the First, Second, and Third Saudi states.

These are small countries with limited native populations, which makes them inherently vulnerable. They are among the wealthiest states in the world but are located in one of the most geopolitically turbulent regions. As a result, they rely either on regional protection or external security guarantees. Since they are politically, economically, and militarily aligned with the West—particularly the United States—the US has become their primary security partner.

Something has to change , present security architecture of the gulf states is not viable in the long run.

It seems pretty viable to me. The small GCC states are still standing with minimal damage, while Iran and the Iranian regime have been heavily bombed, suffering immense material and military damage as well as thousands upon thousands (if not tens of thousands) of casualties, both military and civilian.

In fact, I predict that U.S. presence is only going to increase.

Ideally from the perspective of KSA they would leave which would allow KSA to potentially annex those lands again but this is unlikely to occur.

​

Winds and stakes: Which is more dangerous? And who do we wish victory to?​

[Original in Arabic]
Ahmed Yaqoub Baqer
07-03-2026

Messages circulating on smartphones ask who we hope will win the current war between the Zionists, along with America, and Iran. Some of these messages offer naive answers based on sectarian wishes or personal ambitions for victory for one side or the other. However, Prince Turki Al-Faisal was more objective in a widely circulated video, where he explained that there are three agendas in our region. The first is the Iranian agenda, which is based on exporting the Iranian revolution and the principle of the Guardianship of the Islamic Jurist. The second agenda is that of Netanyahu and the Zionists who occupy Muslim lands and holy sites. Netanyahu has expressed his intention to expand in order to establish Greater Israel. The third agenda is that of the Evangelical Christians who demand the return of the Jews to Greater Israel, because it will lead to the return of Christ and ignite the Battle of Armageddon, in which the Evangelicals will triumph over the evildoers (meaning us).

If we consider these three agendas, we find that the Iranian agenda succeeded at the beginning, and Iran controlled parts of Lebanon, Yemen, and Iraq. They are now experiencing a clear decline, and they were expelled from Syria after Iran stood with the criminal Bashar, and they killed more than a million Muslims. As for the second agenda, it succeeded in occupying Muslim lands and holy sites, and killing tens of thousands of Muslims in Gaza and the West Bank. Its proponents expressed their intention to expand and occupy other parts of neighboring Arab countries to establish Greater Israel. Netanyahu stated that after the end of their war with Iran, the way will be open to conclude the Abraham Accords and normalization with the rest of the Arab countries.

As is evident, there is a great convergence between the Jewish and Evangelical agendas. The American ambassador to the Zionist gang state (Huckabee) revealed the conviction of the Evangelical Christians who support the Zionist ambition to occupy more Arab lands to establish the Greater State of Israel, which will include parts of Egypt, Saudi Arabia, the Levant, Iraq, and Kuwait. He said that this is the right of the Jews that came in the Torah. The ambassador did not apologize for his statement that affects the sovereignty and dignity of the Arab countries concerned. The American Secretary of Commerce and others demanded the collection of millions from the oil countries, while the American Secretary of Defense, Hegseth, wished to rebuild Solomon’s Temple in place of Al-Aqsa.

The current situation is witnessing an almost complete collapse of the Iranian agenda and the Iranian military power. The war and what preceded it proved that they are infiltrated to the core. They have not been able to identify the sources of infiltration since the assassination of Soleimani, Al-Muhandis, Haniyeh, and the nuclear scientists. Nuclear sites deep in the mountains were bombed, and finally the Supreme Leader and the army commanders were assassinated, and most of the missile platforms, ammunition depots, and raw materials were destroyed.

After Iranian ballistic missiles failed to make any difference in the ongoing war, the Iranians found no other option but to expand the scope of the war by bombing the Gulf states and closing the Strait of Hormuz to stop the export of gas and oil, in order to create an economic crisis that would push Europe and China to intervene to stop the air strikes, thus giving the Iranians time to repair their military situation.

As for the Zionist-American agenda, despite its military superiority, its demand to change the regime in Iran to a regime loyal to it may be very difficult, and if the regime change does not succeed, it is expected that Iran will regain its strength with its allies in a short period of time.

In conclusion, all three agendas are dangerous for us, and I believe, and God knows best, that the most dangerous party to the nation is the one with the agenda who will ultimately prevail and be able to impose his agenda on it. Therefore, the Arabs must prepare for him now.

Agree with many of his points. A good share.

Life completely normal in KSA as throughout all of this war.



By the way, KSA and the GCC have everything to lose, as they include some of the world’s richest states. Iran, on the other hand, is a heavily sanctioned country with an economy smaller than that of the UAE, a country of only about 10 million people. It is essentially a comparison of apples and oranges.

Even so, tiny Qatar reportedly shot down two Iranian Su-24 aircraft, and the UAE reportedly targeted sites within Iran. The firepower of the smaller GCC states alone is sufficient to cause significant damage to Iran.

There is therefore no real “achievement” in targeting largely empty US bases and some civilian areas in small GCC states.

Also it is obvious that KSA and GCC played an active role in weakening the Iranian regime. With little consequences in return. I have no problem with that at all personally. We should do it again if ever needed. It is an enemy regime that has caused a lot of problems in the Arab world and that has actively aided the enemies of KSA. Therefore it is karma that KSA has now helped facilitated that war on them. Chickens coming home to roost.

However that is all - KSA/GCC will not join any war that is not ours. Despite Lindsey Graham and others crying about the need for that.

Another reminder - the GCC has sovereign wealth funds worth close to 7 TRILLION USD. The PIF in KSA alone grew by almost 250 billion USD within 12 months. Whatever material damage, very little, in KSA practically zero, is a tiny drop in the ocean. Not even worth commenting on. Now compare that with the damage in Iran.

People are beginning to ask the real questions now. This narrative is a chance for an off ramp and greater unity in the region. Will the GCC decide to become independent of foreign forces? That is the ideal scenario but requires capacity building.

UAE billionaire asks Trump: Who authorised turning our region into a war zone?​

UAE billionaire asks Trump: Who authorised turning our region into a war zone?

Khalaf Al Habtoor, chairman of Al Habtoor Group, says the Gulf and Middle Eastern countries, and their people, are not arenas for settling scores among the great powers

www.khaleejtimes.com

The Abu Dhabi regime/UAE (current adversary of KSA) has been the biggest loser in the GCC albeit not heavily targeted overall. Practically another drop in the ocean for them.

However the psychological impact has been big. I am sure that the tourism and business share will further continue to be "taken" by KSA. Which is good as this will weaken the Abu Dhabi regime further.

Another KSA win.

 

[mythbuster]

I mean sure, if it were up to me or the common citizens there. But its not.

And I'm not sure what you mean specifically regarding the security architecture currently present, because even without any of the Gulf US bases there, Israel would still strike and the US can still attack and wreck havoc regardless from it's carriers and using fuel tankers from Israeli bases. Nothing fundamentally will change unless Israel is destroyed for good unfortunately.

Unless gulf states join Abraham accord and get under the umbrella ' pax Judea ' there can't be a harmony in security architecture of the region... without Abraham accord Israel and rest of the middle east can't stay together in the American camp ...what options do the gulfies or middle Eastern countries have ?

 

[mythbuster]

Why should they be “expelled”? Those US bases in the smaller GCC states (there are no US bases in KSA and there have not been any for more than 20 years) originated from geopolitical events following Saddam Hussein’s invasion of Kuwait in 1990 and the subsequent First Gulf War.

Afterwards, the US military presence remained because the GCC is one of the world’s most strategic regions, located at the crossroads of global trade and aviation routes. It is also one of the richest regions in terms of natural resources. The foremost global power, the United States, naturally wanted a strategic footprint in the region.

Another reason is that the rulers of the smaller GCC states have historically feared potential annexation by larger neighbors such as KSA.

These small GCC states have historically been part of various civilizations, empires, caliphates, kingdoms, sultanates, imamates, emirates, and sheikhdoms founded or ruled by dynasties originating from what is now modern-day KSA. Even the House of Saud historically controlled parts of the region during the First, Second, and Third Saudi states.

These are small countries with limited native populations, which makes them inherently vulnerable. They are among the wealthiest states in the world but are located in one of the most geopolitically turbulent regions. As a result, they rely either on regional protection or external security guarantees. Since they are politically, economically, and militarily aligned with the West—particularly the United States—the US has become their primary security partner.


It seems pretty viable to me. The small GCC states are still standing with minimal damage, while Iran and the Iranian regime have been heavily bombed, suffering immense material and military damage as well as thousands upon thousands (if not tens of thousands) of casualties, both military and civilian.

In fact, I predict that U.S. presence is only going to increase.

Ideally from the perspective of KSA they would leave which would allow KSA to potentially annex those lands again but this is unlikely to occur.

Agree with many of his points. A good share.

Life completely normal in KSA as throughout all of this war.



By the way, KSA and the GCC have everything to lose, as they include some of the world’s richest states. Iran, on the other hand, is a heavily sanctioned country with an economy smaller than that of the UAE, a country of only about 10 million people. It is essentially a comparison of apples and oranges.

Even so, tiny Qatar reportedly shot down two Iranian Su-24 aircraft, and the UAE reportedly targeted sites within Iran. The firepower of the smaller GCC states alone is sufficient to cause significant damage to Iran.

There is therefore no real “achievement” in targeting largely empty US bases and some civilian areas in small GCC states.

Also it is obvious that KSA and GCC played an active role in weakening the Iranian regime. With little consequences in return. I have no problem with that at all personally. We should do it again if ever needed. It is an enemy regime that has caused a lot of problems in the Arab world and that has actively aided the enemies of KSA. Therefore it is karma that KSA has now helped facilitated that war on them. Chickens coming home to roost.

However that is all - KSA/GCC will not join any war that is not ours. Despite Lindsey Graham and others crying about the need for that.

Another reminder - the GCC has sovereign wealth funds worth close to 7 TRILLION USD. The PIF in KSA alone grew by almost 250 billion USD within 12 months. Whatever material damage, very little, in KSA practically zero, is a tiny drop in the ocean. Not even worth commenting on. Now compare that with the damage in Iran.

You're getting the adrenaline rush , that's understandable.... unofficially , Iran has surrendered , it won't be a military threat for a long time in future.... how are you going to keep balance of power in the region? ....what good are these bases in the gulf if they're evacuated in time of crisis? Do you believe America will be an honest umpire between Israel and Arabs in time of crisis ?

 

[_Arabia_]

You're getting the adrenaline rush , that's understandable.... unofficially , Iran has surrendered , it won't be a military threat for a long time in future.... how are you going to keep balance of power in the region? ....what good are these bases in the gulf if they're evacuated in time of crisis? Do you believe America will be an honest umpire between Israel and Arabs in time of crisis ?

I personally do not particularly care about those US military bases in the smaller GCC states. They were always vulnerable to missile and drone attacks given the geography. Yet they are still standing, and the US will likely repair the limited damage to them very quickly.

However, we cannot ignore that the GCC acted as a launchpad against Iran despite public claims to the contrary. It is astonishing that Iran's response has been so weak so far.

I do not think it is a choice between either the GCC (KSA, which I would not include here as we have no US bases and have hardly been involved in this war to begin with) or Israel.

Unless gulf states join Abraham accord and get under the umbrella ' pax Judea ' there can't be a harmony in security architecture of the region... without Abraham accord Israel and rest of the middle east can't stay together in the American camp ...what options do the gulfies or middle Eastern countries have ?

KSA might join eventually when the conditions are right. Israel is in many ways already an Arab country, with a 20% Arab population and about two-thirds of Israeli Jews being Arab Jews or partially of Arab origin.

However, regardless of this, KSA will continue its rapid industrialization and military growth, which will eventually ensure its continued status as both a regional and middle power. Hopefully, this process will also create a healthy degree of competition across the Arab world, allowing regional Arab power centers to emerge that could later integrate economically, politically, and militarily—much like the natural process that occurred in much of Europe after World War II and 1991.

BTW, Israel is not a threat for KSA. Never was and likely never will be. Other Arabs have been screwed by them - KSA never was. In fact our people used to rule what is today Israel for millennia and many of the so-called "Jewish" dynasties were Hejazi/Arabian in origin - either Nabatean or Edomites. In fact the original Israelites and Canaanites originated in Southern Levant/Northern Arabia. The Phoenicians for instance openly wrote about their origin being in Dilmun (Eastern Arabia - modern-day Eastern KSA, Bahrain etc.)

We need to be precise when we talk about Arabs and Israel. We are talking about a very limited and small number of Arabs here. Just like when KSA and Houthis have an internal Arabian dispute - it does not impact other Arabs - not even other fellow Peninsula Arabs in say Kuwait or Bahrain.

We are a too big landmass (Arab world - the size of Russia spanning two continents) and with 550 million people (800 million by 2050) to keep talking about "Arabs" a single monolith let alone one single Arab world. There are 10's of "Arab world's" out there.

Just take KSA itself as an example. 90% of the country and its regions (KSA alone is larger than Iran and Iraq combined - lol) have not even been remotely impacted by this or any past conflicts. Even our 10 + year long conflict with the Houthis next door.

@_Arabia_

Why do you think US is telling all Americans to leave region?

They have similar warnings for Israel but it's not actually enforced there and people are flying back into Israel.

But US is actually trying to scare Americans from staying in GCC and Arab states in region

90% of all Americans and Westerners have stayed in KSA. As have 99% of all expats if not more.

Things have been very normal in even UAE, Kuwait for the past few days as well. 99% of all the online nonsense is exaggeration, lies and nonsense. 90% of what is reported about KSA/GCC are lies, statements taking out of context, old footage etc. It is a joke that no local wastes his time on.

Go watch US/Western media reports from within KSA/GCC and see that even during the height of the attacks on UAE (most hard hit) life was relatively normal with people celebrating Iftar out in public in restaurants, beach life continuing, malls completely full, even Abu Dhabi regime officials eating out in public among tourists and locals alike, etc. Most of UAE (outside of Dubai, Abu Dhabi) was never impacted to begin with.

Bahrain, due to size, was probably the most impacted but life never stopped either. No real damage anywhere has occurred too. All it takes to realize this is simply to open some live webcams. Throughout this war - same story.

Israel too has been impacted very little as well.

KSA stock market bouncing back very quickly and growing:

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[Haz]

Unless gulf states join Abraham accord and get under the umbrella ' pax Judea ' there can't be a harmony in security architecture of the region... without Abraham accord Israel and rest of the middle east can't stay together in the American camp ...what options do the gulfies or middle Eastern countries have ?

You're asking a question that no one has an easy answer to or a straight clear path towards solving.

The Abraham accords will only provide a temporary peace, not a permanent one, because Israel has become and will increasingly move into an extremist direction in the future given their demographics, and they are not hiding their intentions, they will claim all the lands through war and violence that they think God has entitled them to. This includes waging war on all its neighbours, including Egypt and Saudi in the future.

It also will not tolerate a single state that can challenge it in anyway in the region, they are already drumming up the propaganda against Turkey and laying the ground work for future confrontations against it. Nothing will stop their violent behaviour until they are eradicated from the region, no treaty like the Abraham accords or whatever other BS they offer to ME states will actually prevent more violence and chaos at their hands.

But how you actually go about and destroy this Zionist demonic force given the current political make of the region is not something I have an answer for and no one else does either. There will need to be substantial structural changes to the regions leaderships and their governments that ends up in uniting them to finally be able to defeat this menace and defeat them, but I don't see this happening anytime soon. This struggle and violence will continue for decades if not much longer from the way things are.