Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[EugeneP]

The situation is unfolding as expected.
I believed the USAF and IDF would wait until Iran's missiles were sufficiently depleted before launching attacks on oil infrastructure.
Once Iran's retaliatory capabilities are neutralized, it will be unable to strike back at Arab oil fields or Israeli refineries.
The US will observe Iran's depletion and declining morale, then gradually expand bombing of civilian infrastructure, destroying oil fields and power plants to send Iran back to the Middle Ages.
The concept of controlling escalation absolutely cannot work against the USAF, supported by a global supply network and capable of projecting virtually unlimited ammunition.
Iran has devised a completely flawed strategy based on the illusion that the enemy's ammunition will eventually run out.
Aggression will not cease unless attacks inflict pain on the enemy and cause human casualties.
Controlling escalation is only possible when there is a balance of power between the two sides. Iran is currently fighting alone against the industrial might of the entire planet; balance is impossible. Therefore, under its current strategy, being forced into unconditional surrender is only a matter of time.

Generally true, but I see some differences.
1. I think they focused a lot on eliminating the leadership. Now, it seems it was a good decision, as Iran is fighting the war autonomously without leadership, making it less effective.
2. First few days, the focus was on eliminating missile & drone capacity. They seem to have achieved it as the reports of missile and drone intensity suggest it has come down from day 1.
3. They are focusing now on energy and infrastructure. That should reduce missile and drone capabilities.
4. But I don't think there will be an unconditional surrender or need for it. If the missile and drone capabilities are gone, there is no sense in continuing the war. Trump will be eager to declare victory and go home. He likes quick wins.

 

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The zionists airstrips and ports should not be operating right now, period!
One for the utmost urgence and first order of priority.

 

[Kyussis]

Where's @ShapurII ?

Haven't seen him much in this thread since the war started.

He is busy dancing in the streets.

 

[Immortals]

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[BeingHuman]

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Sir pweass My make up is getting expensive

 

[BigMela2onin]

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F*** this guy and his campaign

 

[Michael]

An interesting phenomenon:

March 2nd, the regular press conference of the Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
Bloomberg: U.S. President Donald Trump has said that he’ll visit China later this month. Do you have any details about that visit? Does it appear to your side that this will go ahead? 
Mao Ning: China and the U.S. are in communication regarding interactions between the two heads of state. As for your specific question, I have no information to share at the moment.

The United States announced this long ago: US President Donald Trump is set to visit China from March 31 to April 2.

Will this situation change because of this war? We'll have to wait and see.

Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi responds to questions about Trump's visit to China:

中美都是大国，都改变不了彼此，但可以改变相处方式，那就是秉持相互尊重的态度，守住和平共处的底线，争取合作共赢的前景，这才符合两国人民的利益，也符合国际社会的期待。王毅在就中美关系答问时说，两国元首身体力行，在最高层次上保持了良好交往，为中美关系的改善发展提供了重要战略保障，也推动中美关系历经跌宕起伏实现了总体稳定。今年是中美关系的“大年”，高层交往的议程已经摆在我们的桌面上。现在需要做的是，双方为此做出周全的准备，营造适宜的环境，管控存在的风险，排除不必要的干扰。

Google Translate

Both China and the US are major powers, and neither can change the other, but they can change their way of interacting. That means upholding mutual respect, adhering to the bottom line of peaceful coexistence, and striving for a win-win future. This is in the interests of both peoples and meets the expectations of the international community. Wang Yi, in answering questions about China-US relations, said that the two heads of state have personally maintained good exchanges at the highest level, providing an important strategic guarantee for the improvement and development of China-US relations and promoting overall stability despite ups and downs. This year is a "big year" for China-US relations, and high-level exchanges are on the agenda. What is needed now is for both sides to make thorough preparations, create a suitable environment, manage existing risks, and eliminate unnecessary interference.

 

[StrategicBear]

Generally true, but I see some differences.
1. I think they focused a lot on eliminating the leadership. Now, it seems it was a good decision, as Iran is fighting the war autonomously without leadership, making it less effective.
2. First few days, the focus was on eliminating missile & drone capacity. They seem to have achieved it as the reports of missile and drone intensity suggest it has come down from day 1.
3. They are focusing now on energy and infrastructure. That should reduce missile and drone capabilities.
4. But I don't think there will be an unconditional surrender or need for it. If the missile and drone capabilities are gone, there is no sense in continuing the war. Trump will be eager to declare victory and go home. He likes quick wins.

The end of the war is not up to America or Trump. It won't end until Iran gets its proper revenge against Trump and Satanyahu.

And Iran's missiles and drones are far from depleted; they're just saving it and keeping it hidden underground. The main force right now is drones. Iran is a large country bigger than Iraq with a mountainous terrain, therefore the US couldn't settle this all from the air. It's impossible. They'd need boots on the ground to deny territory needed to make more drones.

This war is just starting.

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

Before this, Iran has avoided attacking Israeli strategic sites like oil refineries and desalination plants with slim hopes of deescalating, but now the calculus has changed because they started attacking Iran's own strategic facilities. Therefore, they have changed the rules of the game and must now suffer the consequences.

It's clear what the Genocidal Regime wants now.

I wasn't aware there were any rules to begin with.

 

[BeingHuman]

Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi responds to questions about Trump's visit to China:

中美都是大国，都改变不了彼此，但可以改变相处方式，那就是秉持相互尊重的态度，守住和平共处的底线，争取合作共赢的前景，这才符合两国人民的利益，也符合国际社会的期待。王毅在就中美关系答问时说，两国元首身体力行，在最高层次上保持了良好交往，为中美关系的改善发展提供了重要战略保障，也推动中美关系历经跌宕起伏实现了总体稳定。今年是中美关系的“大年”，高层交往的议程已经摆在我们的桌面上。现在需要做的是，双方为此做出周全的准备，营造适宜的环境，管控存在的风险，排除不必要的干扰。

Google Translate

Both China and the US are major powers, and neither can change the other, but they can change their way of interacting. That means upholding mutual respect, adhering to the bottom line of peaceful coexistence, and striving for a win-win future. This is in the interests of both peoples and meets the expectations of the international community. Wang Yi, in answering questions about China-US relations, said that the two heads of state have personally maintained good exchanges at the highest level, providing an important strategic guarantee for the improvement and development of China-US relations and promoting overall stability despite ups and downs. This year is a "big year" for China-US relations, and high-level exchanges are on the agenda. What is needed now is for both sides to make thorough preparations, create a suitable environment, manage existing risks, and eliminate unnecessary interference.

While china will keep looking for respect the imperialists will keep taking on its allies and keep on choking Chinese markets and supplies. China should actively involve itself in Pakistani politics and have its influence like US or it will lose big support coming from this country.

 

[Falcon29]

Iran appears to be trying to hit the Hatzerim air base this morning:

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

.... This year is a "big year" for China-US relations, and high-level exchanges are on the agenda. ...

What's this about then?

 

[Michael]

While china will keep looking for respect the imperialists will keep taking on its allies and keep on choking Chinese markets and supplies. China should actively involve itself in Pakistani politics and have its influence like US or it will lose big support coming from this country.

You're incredibly naive!

Do you really think Pakistanis want China to actively intervene in Pakistani politics? What's wrong with you?

Non-interference in other countries' internal affairs. This is a core principle of China's international diplomacy!

 

[Michael]

What's this about then?

I used Google Translate; please refer to the Chinese content for accuracy.

 

[Falcon29]

There is also early warning alert for Dimona Industrial Zone