Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Musings]

There can be no logic where irrational hatred rules.

You talking about your America and Israel? Hatred is crated when war crimes like murdering 160 little girls in Iran are targeted. Irrational hatred is then created

 

[RescueRanger]

How long can Iran continue ?

As long as it takes, they are fighting for their nation.

 

[Aziqbal]

any residents from Tehran here ?

can you update us on the situation with the oil rain? how bad is it ?

 

[r3alist]

Does anyone believe the Saudis may use this as an opportunity to reduce American influence?

Effectively Iran has created the circumstances


After this how could the Saudis justify America as a security provider

Also, has Israel already seeded tension between Turkey and Iran


I have heard in some places that with the separatists circling around this may push Turkey to act.

Iran and Turkey will both have anxiety on losing territory

The israelis have boasted that Iran will be a ally.

Is this what they mean, Iran will seek Israeli help against Turkey?


Fundamentally any internal disagreement between factions within Iran is about aspects of ideology and the way to project Iranian power and growth, if you assume that shia Islam is less a factor in future Iran that does not mean in any way nationalist Iranians will want to weaken Iran

Iranian history is deep and arguably they are a natural regional power, Israel want to share power in the long run?




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[Soldier35]

Despite the massive strikes against Iran, Iran's missiles and drones are also retaliating. Video footage shows Iranian missile strikes on Israel's Ben Gurion Airport in Tel Aviv, where American military aircraft are possibly stationed. It is now known that an Iranian drone hit a US Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) radar at Muwaffaq Salti Air Base in Jordan, as shown at the end of the video. The cost of replacing the AN/TPY-2 radar is estimated at between $300 million and $500 million. Several images, including satellite images, are already available. The Wall Street Journal reported this information.

 

[Garcia Sea]

Iran has no path to survival other than establishing a war leadership system through national mobilization and a strong government, becoming a military state like Yemen.
Pursuing economic growth without establishing security is meaningless; it will all be blown away by bombing and end.
Establishing security comes first, then the economy.
Iran got this sequence wrong and ended up in an irreversible situation.
Neither North Korea nor Pakistan made this mistake in sequence.
Iran must follow Yemen and North Korea's example, dig underground tunnels beneath cities, relocate hospitals, schools, and factories underground, and fortify the entire nation.
Both the GCC and the United States fear most that a combat ready nation like Yemen, reborn as Iran, will reign over the Strait of Hormuz as an eternal enemy.
Therefore, only when Iran resolutely advances its project to transform into a military state will they seriously consider genuine negotiations to stop it.

 

[UKBengali]

US has a lot of different and older stuff . But new missiles at 3 or 5 million a shot and almost grown they take so long to make like 1,5 missile a week. So US has probably fired a years worth of production in a week. At cheap drones

LOL. Those don't work anywhere near as well as the new stuff.

Let them use them up in the hope of getting lucky.

 

[VCheng]

You talking about your America and Israel?

That is a general statement that applies to everybody who allows hatred to flourish, no matter who, since hatred only destroys the hater by disallowing rationality and logic.

No matter who it is.

 

[StrategicBear]

This war to resist American/Israeli Aggression reminds me of Frieza VS the Saiyans in DBZ(Dragon Ball) Anime/Manga.

Frieza is an Evil Alien Emperor ruling over many star systems and planets, and one day one of the vassal races/slave races under his rule rebelled against him, which is the Saiyan Race.

The Saiyans want their freedom so they no longer have to follow Frieza's rule, so they rebelled and fought against him, led by their king who is the father of DBZ's protagonist.

In the end, they were powerless to defeat Frieza and all were annihilated, except for the 2 sons of 2 of the Saiyan Warriors.

In the end, those 2 sons did eventually defeat Frieza, so using this example, Iran WILL one day get her revenge on Satanyahu and Trump for murdering Khamenei.

 

[MS Sandhu]

93 million people

93 , 193 or even 1093 million
That doesn't matter.
What matters most is their industrial backbone to mount destruction on enemy while having the capacity to absorb the same from enemy.
Iran neither has the capability to bring the proportional fire power to battlefield nor the capacity to absorb that firepower of enemy.

For enemies, it's a war of choice
For Iran, in just 8 days, it has become a war of survival.
So again at this rate, in my assessment, Iran will have to make compromises in a month or two.

 

[Hayabusa]

Let's hope this is true. I want to see Tel Aviv up in flames for all the shit they have done today on Tehran.

 

[Viet]

Shocking
Israel jets bombing Iran in daylight.
Seems Iran air defense is dead or at least very weakened.

 

[Musings]

Iran can continue until it realizes that negotiations are the only way out. (The same holds true for the opposing side as well.)

After all, all wars end at the negotiating table, sooner or later.

Iran was attacked illegally. Netanyahu has been begging the US to attack and no sane president would ok the move. Then you and your friends have elected orange and for a few pats on the back - attacks Iran.
When you are asked to negotiate and when the Americans want to appoint your leader - what chances they want to negotiate with ridiculous stuff on agenda?

 

[VCheng]

So again at this rate, in my assessment, Iran will have to make compromises in a month or two.

We can but wait and see. Both sides know this war cannot last for too long, and will eventually need to come to the negotiating table, sooner or later.

 

[RescueRanger]

Well we know where the aircraft carrier is.