Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds



Turkey has a different value for the West, at least for the time being. We, too, need to get our sh't together if we don't want to end up like Iran. I'm hopeful because finally people in Turkey are waking up to this fact. Kemalists, Conservatives, Nationalists - wherever I look I see two sentiments prevail:

- opposing war against Iran
- widespread belief that 'we're next'

I think it's just because Kurds didn't want to die by going inside Iran

This added with the pressure by Turkey
 
Unfortunately that was going to happen. Iran has traditionally been very close to Hindustan. Even the latest naval exercises where the Iranian warship was sunk clearly indicates that Iran is strongly allied to India. Of course Pakistan understands these delicate realities and also has to make choices.

I was really hoping Pakistan could avoid this, but now I think if Saudis ask, we may have to oblige. Hopefully just in the form of air defence. Nothing wrong at all with us helping to protect Saudi air space
 
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Of course it is. Not surprised in the least. #2 diesel in my area is now averaging $4.35/gallon.
 
I was really hoping Pakistan could avoid this, but now I think if Saudis ask, we may have to oblige. Hopefully just in the form of air defence. Nothing wrong at all with us helping to protect Saudi air space
its a double edged sword for jews and hindus though, if pakistan goes all out and join the war on behest of saudi's, imagine the support pakistan will get in the next war against india.
 
If this is true, then Zio-US is almost certainly out of ABM interceptors.

Iran must at the very least carry out a 72 hour “punishment beating” on the Zionist entity to deter it in the future. This will require many dozens of missiles to hit strategic targets and severely damage or destroy them.
Good points and post.

Can I just say with strong conviction that if Iran is unable to negotiate the removal all major US sanctions on it as part of the settlement of this war, Iran may hsve fought this war in vane and will probably have to fight another one against US in 10yrs or less.
 
its a double edged sword for jews and hindus though, if pakistan goes all out and join the war on behest of saudi's, imagine the support pakistan will get in the next war against india.
Pakistan would be joining the KSA in defense against Iran? Because right now I'm not seeing Israel attacking the Saudis or vice-versa.
 
Good points and post.

Can I just say with strong conviction that if Iran is unable to negotiate the removal all major US sanctions on it as part of the settlement of this war, Iran may hsve fought this war in vane and will probably have to fight another one against US in 10yrs or less.
That's about right. Gulf War 1 was in 1991. Gulf War 2 was in 2003.
 
Nothing will happen.

Yep, Pakistan/Saudi alliance is solely for containing israel. Every Saudi knows that they cannot expect Pakistan to fight any Muslim country on their behalf. They do not even want to fight Iran anyway.

Based on the sentiments of Saudis, they are more than happy for Iran to throw the US out, as nobody else, including they themselves can do anything about it.
 

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