Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Salza]

They dont need to, worst case for them if they lose it is they use the island for target practise.

So getting everything destroyed on the island meaning 90% of your oil exports going to 0.

US may tradeoff their invasion of the island with Iran letting oil container pass thru the channel - One possible scenario.

 

[Prince Hamoodi]

 

[j_hungary]

Problem with trump he tells the war is about over Iranian military is decimated they wouldn’t have any missiles to fire after a few days the war was only going to last a few days a week or 2 at best 4 to 6 weeks no land invasion etc etc when do we take trumps words with a grain of salt, I will believe legitimate military generals in America to speak about the war not trump he’s no better than me when it comes to words.

Let’s say hypothetically they attempt to put several thousand American troops on to the island don’t you think Iran would actually love that they would start sending dozens of drones and srbms on poorly defended troops no bomb shelters air defense of all these countries are dwindling day by day they would have to leave all these gcc countries basically defenseless to defend these boys

Was going to put this as one of my podcast topics, but anyway.

The problem is not what the MEU did to seize the Island, the problem is, once the Marines seized the island (By the way, I should also say that they had cancalled the 48 hours pass for all 82 Airborne and pulled them off a recent exercise, so something is up there), then that become something you need to defend, which mean you are transitioning from a fluid warfare into a static warfare, that mean it draw more resource, and more casualty, becuase a lot of "Kuwait" style casualty are going to happen with an Island that close to Iran.

If the Marine seized that island, it most likely can't be used as an FOB or anything, but a pure liability, unless you are looking at using it to invade Iran proper, which I will say this, I don't know anything anymore since this current US admin cannot be predicted with reasons.......

 

[PakistanLVR]

One should have mind to understand it since KSA already announced that it USA will not use its bases in KSA to attack Iran and Pakistan also promise same thing and if attacks continue from Iran on KSA then Pakistan will defend holy land.

@Musings @Waz @Oscar @RescueRanger

I am respectfully requesting to ban this member from this thread. thank you for your attention to this matter.

 

[Salza]

There are other, smaller alternatives, I had posted an article about it in my older posts. I also think if it comes to that, it won't be just Iranian energy infra that goes boom.

Yes this I worried. Iran in desperation will target regional energy infrastructure. If they target Saudis Arab than Pakistan will be involved as well. This will be a huge mess. Complete chaos in the region. Ugly days ahead.

 

[PakistanLVR]

Iran needs to up its game and litter the Strait with scuttled ships/wreckage and mines.

These Yankee-Zio psychopaths need resisting until Trump implodes. His arrogance will force an error.

Listen, with Epstein files, the hardcore goyims amongst the Muslim population, the utter filth across the gulf and greater "Muslim" world, If I were preparing, I'd make sure the whole world comes crumbling down regardless if they are "Muslim" or not. All of them are tied in one way or another. They think just praying 5x a day you're gucci. You already know how I feel about the civilizational war.

 

[j_hungary]

US may tradeoff their invasion of the island with Iran letting oil container pass thru the channel - One possible scenario.

If the US wants the Island as leverage, they can just bomb it (or threaten to bomb it); they aren't looking at trading the invasion of the island as leverage to end the blockade. Because if the leverage is that I can't have oil ship out and neither can you, then it's a lot easier to just bomb the island into smithereens than to try to invade it

However, if this war has ended, and that island was in US hands, then that could be a leverage, because that would be good for "the next time" when Iran closes the strait, but will Iran end the current war on any terms with the US controlling the island?

 

[Ibbi32]

Trump on Iran:

We support gays, but they throw gays off the buildings.

After spending the last year trying to remove lgbt influence in us millitary hes now convincing the gays to go to war

 

[Master Chief]

This makes no sense. They randomly came up with the idea out of desperation and I will tell you exactly why. Even if they annex Kharg and make it an American state, Hormuz is closed, no oil can leave. If the goal is to strangle Iran’s economy, they can bomb the oil facilities instead of a very risky invasion. They have no idea what to do.

It is a reckless move and may well be Trump’s best attempt at a quick victory. He is a very dangerous individual. He can't seem to tolerate losing - and before military analysts laugh at me for suggesting USA can plausibly "lose", all it takes for an American loss on paper is the survival of Iran as an antagonistic nation state with its government sustained and some residual ability to strike Israel with rockets or missiles. Arguably, even a prolonged conflict of attrition can be construed as an "American loss" in this context, which is why Trump is willing to be reckless for an attempt at a quick victory. Iran needs to continue to understand his psyche and ego and use that to their advantage.

All this madness to cover for Israeli expansionist fantasies.

American citizens need to ask themselves and their government if it is all really worth it to let this psychotic colonial apartheid outpost murder kids across the middle east. Has USA not simply picked the wrong side since 1948?

 

[Salza]

This makes no sense. They randomly came up with the idea out of desperation and I will tell you exactly why. Even if they annex Kharg and make it an American state, Hormuz is closed, no oil can leave. If the goal is to strangle Iran’s economy, they can bomb the oil facilities instead of a very risky invasion. They have no idea what to do.

Bro their main aim is to take control of your oil not destroying it. Go and check what happened with Venezuela. You really think this war is about stopping you getting a nuclear bomb lol. This has been a US policy after second world war either have a timid US friendly govt in oil producing countries or bring a war to have one there.

 

[Watandar]

If the US wants the Island as leverage, they can just bomb it (or threaten to bomb it); they aren't looking at trading the invasion of the island as leverage to end the blockade. Because if the leverage is that I can't have oil ship out and neither can you, then it's a lot easier to just bomb the island into smithereens than to try to invade it

However, if this war has ended, and that island was in US hands, then that could be a leverage, because that would be good for "the next time" when Iran closes the strait, but will Iran end the current war on any terms with the US controlling the island?

Interesting. Since you are among the few on the site that is actually a military or police veteran, what do you think this MEU is being brought in for ? I think they are brought in to bust open the Strait , ie seize some islands or coastline on the Iranian side of the Strait.

 

[rishi7887]

Targeting those bases where there are these KC-130 refuelers is smart. Without these those bombing missions are going to be hard and might give the IRGC some breathing space to regroup, re assign targets and come back harder.

Iran is playing 4D chess. This, along with the strikes on day one that targeted those radar sites and blinded the Americans, are proof how smartly Iran are choosing their targets.

Iran, the world may not say it openly, but we stand with you against the Epstein clan who wish to impose their imperialism. God bless Iran! May this holy month of Ramadan, end American-Israeli hegemony once and for all and pave the way for a multi-polar world.

- Best wishes from a Canadian Indian Hindu

 

[dbc]

If the US wants the Island as leverage, they can just bomb it (or threaten to bomb it); they aren't looking at trading the invasion of the island as leverage to end the blockade. Because if the leverage is that I can't have oil ship out and neither can you, then it's a lot easier to just bomb the island into smithereens than to try to invade it

However, if this war has ended, and that island was in US hands, then that could be a leverage, because that would be good for "the next time" when Iran closes the strait, but will Iran end the current war on any terms with the US controlling the island?

Iran won't blow up the island but will try to retake it. Through a negotiated settlement or brute force. Launching missiles at the island is unlikely- it is the beating heart of Iran. They cannot risk damage to the infrastructure on that island. May be it's a bluff to get Iran to give in?

 

[mangekyo]

Bro their main aim is to take control of your oil not destroying it. Go and check what happened with Venezuela. You really think this war is about stopping you getting a nuclear bomb lol. This has been a US policy after second world war either have a timid US friendly govt in oil producing countries or bring a war to have one there.

So what you’re saying is that US troops will occupy the island and American companies will pump and sell the oil while Iran watches?
The strait is closed. Taking the island does nothing but put American troops in danger. Its nothing but a desperate move to press Iran to surrender/accept ceasefire.

 

[Aggregate]

Bro, if this is the reference for your earlier posts, then lets use credible sources. Especially when you start throwing out numbers in Billions of USD ...

The guy spent first 3 mins of video apologizing for giving out fake info, a day back .... Then he immediately started throwing wild theories about what KSA / Pakistan might be doing, based on his imagination ..

Every news should have a credible source from someone who is at some decision making position or has some proven journalistic sources or available references of if they can cite such sources clearly. Otherwise there are a million people on YouTube with their own personal theories about everything.