Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

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I remember how many years ago the choking of Strait of Hormuz used to be discussed in legacy PDF. Today it has become a reality. Weird to actually experience this.
 
Hassan Al-Somal said:
Dimona has a visitor. It is getting pounded!!!


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Dont think the common scum Israeli can rake or have the stomach to take much more. Never have they had to suffer the constant bombardment or fear. They simply not experienced this or expected to. I know people are fleeing back and using their second passports n - going to Cyprus or Europe.
What a shame - never mind
 
There appear to be US fighter jets over Isfahan in Central Iran

I don't understand why China and Russia won't help in any capacity ?

Or was IRGC fearful Iranian AF could try pulling off a coup sort of how it played off during coup against Erdogan in Turkey ?
 
Reports of targeting Isa Air Base in Bahrain

Smoke is rising from the base

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But
j_hungary said:
The Marine is not going to attack Kharg Island, unless they fancy a YOLO style mad dash from Kuwait. I don't even know if the US can sail the entire AAG (LHA group) into the area, and even if they could, that's going to be a turkey shoot for Iranian drones. Going up the strait of Hormuz

Theoretically, they can use the 82nd Airborne on the island and fight either an air assault battle or a semi-amphibous assault, but that would again mean the US would need to defend the island somehow, 10,000 Army Airborne plus 5000 Marine is that small island would be like shooting fish inside a barrel, and pretty soon they will find out how Ukraine fought for 4 years, because those troop would have been doing the same thing under drone attacks..

Those Marine is more than likely be just posturing,
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But I read in this thread about another island with 100 km long. I think if they really want to attack, that island would be a bigger choice than the kharg island
 
dr.coomer said:
the issue can be resolved peacefully by the saudis if they say no US assets can be in the region, yet they arent willing to do that...so here we are
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So the Saudis should listen to dictation of Iran on whom the Saudis can have a Military alliance with? They should not even have soverign authority within their own borders? Fact is, Iran is attacking countries which are not attacking Iran and this needs to stop somewhere. That is, unless it can be established that attacks on Iran, atleast some, have been initiated from some of those bases, which would then make those bases legitimate targets by Iran.
 
Even into the early morning hours, the artillery shelling continued, along with some airstrikes, and the sound of gunfire could be heard in the city of #Al-Khiyam

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Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ said:
There, you said it!

It is not about objectivity or aversion to an illegal war of aggression... that was totally initiated by choice... subject to which were every other Middle Eastern state... context be damned!
First thing Pakistan was not and is not party to any Saudi-US bilateral ties or compulsions. Neither was it grandfathered in...
A US aggression where Saudis are mere spectators because US chose war ... WITH OR WITHOUT SAUDI APPROVAL AND WAS NOT ABLE TO GUARANTEE THEIR PROTECTION OR SECURITY.
In other words US threw Saudis under the bus, come what may!
Pakistan has no compulsion unless it so CHOOSE!
And that choice comes with many a pitfalls... Pakistan has a significant Shi'i minority and a sacred border.
This war has nothing to do with Saudis except their exposure to US diktat, materiel and bases... ISR capabilities... that for US work under a unified command.
Here is where the US impunity precludes Iranian... because eventhough US can use whatever it may at its discretion... Iran must ties both its hands behind its back to get slapped around. Because then Saudi or GCC sovereignty swings into action only to split the battlefield when it is not.
I know it seems complicated on the other side... it is not. It is Iran vs zion... where zion can sock puppet US and its proxies to do its bidding.

Pakistan will be wise to sit back. Only thing it can offer is the safety of the regime... which is not going anywhere regardless of Pakistan and Iranians even if they were able to, are not after that...
So stop being so melodramatic.
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Currently, Pakistan is engaged in heavy diplomacy all over GCC, Iran and the US. But you know what happens when diplomacy fails, especially when it is because of the stubborness of 1 party (which in turn is based on its inability to strike back at its attacker, i.e. the US) and so targets soverign neighbours instead.

Thank God those neighbours have been so accomodating and restrained so far.
 
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