Operation Ghazab Lil Haq (Pakistan - Afghanistan War)

[Salza]

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[Hopefully Pessimistic]

I think Pakistan needs to adjust its maneuvering of the information space after the recent fake hospital strike debacle. It was allowed to spread far and wide because it wasn't shut down immediately, then further weaponised.

Some sort of interview with a state television channel needs to immediately shoot down the claims through refuations and then immediately a counter narrative should spread before it can be solidified.

An immediate denial and clear refutation is key. Too much space was given for them to keep adding on and spreading it.

 

[iron shrapnel]

not hard to make
basically a copy of this .

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but they cost like 2 to 3 thousand dollars to make , uses mostly quadcopter parts from china

That's the cost for a hobbyist... if bought in parts or off the shelf in scale would bring the price lower... Setting up a facility for manufacturing of these small drones is a necessity as the same model can be used for interception and as suicide fpvs
These are multipurpose and usable on multiple front,ideally you would like to purchase lasers from China as the cost per kill is lowest after initial investment....

 

[iron shrapnel]

Anything like Anza / FN-16 can do the job.

Isn't that more expensive ?

 

[Jango]

Terrorists attacks on Pakistan since 2000.
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I know a matplotlib chart when I see one

 

[side-winder]

Isn't that more expensive ?

Not all require hard kill. Most are taken care of through soft kills.

 

[iron shrapnel]

I think Pakistan needs to adjust its maneuvering of the information space after the recent fake hospital strike debacle. It was allowed to spread far and wide because it wasn't shut down immediately, then further weaponised.

Some sort of interview with a state television channel needs to immediately shoot down the claims through refuations and then immediately a counter narrative should spread before it can be solidified.

An immediate denial and clear refutation is key. Too much space was given for them to keep adding on and spreading it.

Moreover, according to liar zabiullah it's the second rehabilitation center we hit, he claimed a few days earlier as well that a rehabilitation center was hit... Maybe Afghans have another definition for rehabilitation center that the world is yet to discover....

Unfortunately, there are a lot of actors inside our borders who have peddled this news and are sympathizers for their own agenda... They haven't been able to show one body apart from an injured guard...

We should have surveillance drones loitering over head with better optics just to debunk these guys later on...

 

[Ibbi32]

Terrorists attacks on Pakistan since 2000.
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Remind me again in 2000 Balochistan crisis was dormant radical islamist factions either didnt exist or were deployed by ISI in kashmir. So why were there still so so many terrorism related fatalities between 2000-2002?

 

[iron shrapnel]

Not all require hard kill. Most are taken care of through soft kills.

The question still remains.. Anza and FN-16 are designed to take down fast flying aircraft and helis and are much more potent.. granted you take down max number through soft kill but what about the one's you use Anza and fn 16 for ?

Shouldn't there be an economical solution for this ? The Indian front could also use low cost interceptors... Initially use operators to collect enough data and then train an AI model for semi-autonomous interception where final hit is decided by a observer.. observer required initially to avoid blue on blue kills as the AI model is being trained and could be made completely autonomous down the line..

 

[Hopefully Pessimistic]

The Taliban spokesperson was caught out while using old images to further the fake hospital claim

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[iron shrapnel]

The question still remains.. Anza and FN-16 are designed to take down fast flying aircraft and helis and are much more potent.. granted you take down max number through soft kill but what about the one's you use Anza and fn 16 for ?

Shouldn't there be an economical solution for this ? The Indian front could also use low cost interceptors... Initially use operators to collect enough data and then train an AI model for semi-autonomous interception where final hit is decided by a observer.. observer required initially to avoid blue on blue kills as the AI model is being trained and could be made completely autonomous down the line..

These drones incursion are a valuable opportunity to validate new technologies and battle test such options, taking them down with rudimentary and non specialized assets is ok i guess but you can't sell 2 guys on motorbike with a G-3 ... Or use expensive options in a high intensity war...

 

[Hopefully Pessimistic]

Time to start preparing Northern proxies to make it de-facto autonomous zone

Pakistan really needs to drop leaflets in North Afghanistan provinces in Farsi clarifying that our (Pakistan's) war is not against your people, but against the occupying Taliban terrorist regime, and we are trying our best to avoid all possible civilian casualities. The only goal is to prevent the Taliban from launching attacks and sleeper cells into Pakistan.

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[flyingorca]

Moreover, according to liar zabiullah it's the second rehabilitation center we hit, he claimed a few days earlier as well that a rehabilitation center was hit... Maybe Afghans have another definition for rehabilitation center that the world is yet to discover....

Unfortunately, there are a lot of actors inside our borders who have peddled this news and are sympathizers for their own agenda... They haven't been able to show one body apart from an injured guard...

We should have surveillance drones loitering over head with better optics just to debunk these guys later on...

It turns out the new bastardized Taliban (hybrid of IndoZion) are even bigger pathological liars then Indians. They will simply force random people to pose under white cloth to show casualties.

 

[iron shrapnel]

@side-winder Brother I'm sure we can source cheap copies of something like this from China until we have domestic capacity. Something like this isn't complex

It makes it economical to intercept drones. Give it to units in every major city and site.

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Getting ToT....
Use them to take down some drones...
Slap battle tested on them and sell...
Make money...
Buy another G6 cough cough...

Imagine pairing them with MALE drones to target insurgents as well.. Carry them on pylons... possible to hit inside caves and also be used for surveillance where MALE drone alone might fail to achieve better surveillance...

 

[Hopefully Pessimistic]

Getting ToT....
Use them to take down some drones...
Slap battle tested on them and sell...
Make money...
Buy another G6 cough cough...

Imagine pairing them with MALE drones to target insurgents as well.. Carry them on pylons... possible to hit inside caves and also be used for surveillance where MALE drone alone might fail to achieve better surveillance...

So much to try brother and it will be far more economical but our officers have a habit of remaining stuck in old ways. Sometimes it scares me.

Can't use up expensive equipment to intercept hobby drones let alone scramble fighters. Too expensive and so much more suitable options