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[AeronautIR]

i would be suprised if we have five of them , they wont do shit

Bro, we should write our will.

 

[hasssanali8998]

We are doomed.

i am sorry but id rather have my leaders be on some doomer core than dekhen ge cope

 

[PakShaheen_79]

We are doomed.

If you have "NOTHING" to do, please don't do it here. Thanks.

Lolz it is really funny that I wrote that it is cultural thing to bury our heads in sand and you couldn't resist to confirm it. May Allah have mercy on us with this atitude.

 

[hasssanali8998]

why do you think that?

as explained by many knowledgeable members about how our r&d and production facilities are set up .

 

[NationalistPKDude132]

i am sorry but id rather have my leaders be on some doomer core rather than dekhen ge cope

True that though I agree

 

[AeronautIR]

i am sorry but id rather have my leaders be on some doomer core rather than dekhen ge cope

Leaders won't make policy based on the discussions on this forum. I will not try to convince you that it wasn't dekhen ge cope after 2019. The alarmist brigade was still going on about 'agr Rafale hota' and PAF doesn't know its arse from elbow. Then came 2025 and now we are showing the damaged hangars as proof that next conflict will be the one where IAF will prevail.

 

[AeronautIR]

If you have "NOTHING" to do, please don't do it here. Thanks.

Sure. You can continue telling people how PAF leadership doesn't know the future threat but you have googled the Indian preparations for next war and it will be disastrous for Pakistan.

 

[PakShaheen_79]

Sure. You can continue telling people how PAF leadership doesn't know the future threat but you have googled the Indian preparations for next war and it will be disastrous for Pakistan.

Believe me it is not Indian preparations I am worried about (though it has its own merits), it is actually something else which bothers me and I have mentioned it above. Sir, few discussions are for us alarmists only. Try to stay clear and keep on with Sab Acha Hai. Thanks.

 

[AeronautIR]

Believe me it is not Indian preparations I am worried about (though it has its own merits), it is actually something else which bothers me and I have mentioned it above. Sir, few discussions are for us alarmists only. Try to stay clear and keep on with Sab Acha Hai. Thanks.

Bas kr do bhai. They don't have to make you feel good by first asking your opinion about how PAF should be ready to take on a much bigger adversary. You downplay PAF wins and try to portray a bleak picture. There will be hits next time too. If you don't believe that we dealt more damage to IAF in every conflict, can't do anything about it. Let them do their job and you can rub it in their faces next time too that how shooting down jets is no big deal but taking hits on bases is a failure.

 

[kimjongun]

Rumor is though anyway I heard on reddit one commentor who had sources in the paf was saying that were planning to show of some newky inducted goodies the PAF got in independence day parade this year 2026

So we will see if it's true or not

same but probably after he heard it here from @side-winder lol

 

[hasssanali8998]

same but probably after he heard it here from @side-winder lol

EXACLTY

 

[PakShaheen_79]

Bas kr do bhai. They don't have to make you feel good by first asking your opinion about how PAF should be ready to take on a much bigger adversary. You downplay PAF wins and try to portray a bleak picture. There will be hits next time too. If you don't believe that we dealt more damage to IAF in every conflict, can't do anything about it. Let them do their job and you can rub it in their faces next time too that how shooting down jets is no big deal but taking hits on bases is a failure.

PAF's performance on 7th May 2025 is globally undisputed thing and no one challenged it for that matter. Can you show me where I have down played this PAF's victory in sky? No you can't. You keep brining this up just to change the goal post.

Now coming to real elephant in the room. Did PAF release satellite images of its strikes in Afghanistan? NO. So, how did they surface? Because, there are more than dozen organizations world wide who take keen interests in these conflicts and their cortax analysis. So, when there are actuallly damaged enemy structures and bases, the satellite imagery do come out regardless if conflicting parties release them or not. This is true even in current Iran-Israel/US war. Why you think PAF is pressing on sending own sensors in the sky? There is a cpabilitiy gap which is being plugged in which is good, Alhamdolillah.

You are an IR scholar. Please enlighten us how Air Power came into being and what problem/challenge it was whose solution was sought in air power. I do hope this academic exercise will shed some light on primary aim of having air power in the first place then juxtapose that finding on what I have been saying about our lack of PUNCH agianst a much bigger foe.

 

[NationalistPKDude132]

Bottom line is:

Pakistan had outstanding success in 7th may, showed good anti drone capability on May 8th, had some form of success from bunyna um marsoos to make the indians change tone(as sat images come out)


Good performance by armed forces but there is alot of work left to do.. alot of work.

 

[T80UD]

i am sorry but id rather have my leaders be on some doomer core than dekhen ge cope

That cope got us through the period when F-16s Mirages and F-6s with Sidewinders and magics were facing IAF Mig 29s Mirage 2ks and SU-30MkIs with bvr missiles, not mention the Navy with 3 combat ready ships and 60s era dapne class submarines.

Atam bamb was the only thing saving our asses back then.

 

[puttputt]

We literally have just built taimooor missile which is scalp but better In everyway and you are here screaming we are doomed for eternity...

What do you think is the production output of the Taimoor ALCM?

Anyways, I think pinning all this on the PAF solely is also mistaken. Pakistan's not going to win in a tit-for-tat exchange with India. Rather, Pakistan (being the smaller force) would need to escalate all the way to the top to keep India off its feet.

This is why the Army set up ARFC. There's going to come a point where we need the Army to use Indian aggression as a pretext to cross the LoC (and/or other areas). Doing so can, potentially, shift the gravity of the conflict back into India, thereby giving the PAF space to build on the Army's actions with its own operations.

It's high-risk, for sure, but what alternative is there when India comes slamming on our doors? Do we want to entrap ourselves in a tit-for-tat exchange with them?