Operation Ghazab Lil Haq (Pakistan - Afghanistan War)

UndercoverJIX said:
as I keep saying, we are using shurlies on border posts and letting them runaway alive. majority of posts not destroyed, clips show only dust smoke, structure still intact.

I call it rang bazi

They are playing with ordinary soldiers, civis life
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You want to undo 70 years of doing in 7 days? It's now obvious Afganistan's prime target has always been Pakistan. The heavy build-up at the Pak borders testifies this....
 
Hakikat ve Hikmet said:
You want to undo 70 years of doing in 7 days? It's now obvious Afganistan's prime target has always been Pakistan. The heavy build-up at the Pak borders testifies this....
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You are correct.

What I am saying is, If Pakistan has made up its mind then why doing it half heartedly, especially across the border.

30 KM inside Afghanistan, all the posts destroyed/captured, how they are still coming so close to the border posts and killing our soldiers and running away alive ....

If a sector is marked clear, it should remain clear during the ongoing operation...........you understand?????right????

We are doing this half ass thing for 20 years, wasting lives and resources.

and before some emotional child jump up bring in the local population crap......I am strictly talking about border and TTA posts across the line.

I hope I am making a little sense

Regards.
 
T80UD said:
Peak of yookayistani intelligence.
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They just want Pakistan to get itself destroyed without resisting so they can brag on the internet.
 
It is in Pakistan's interest to engage the taliban in a direct war rather than deal with their proxies operating below the threshold of war.

Many of the attacks on Pakistan were not even reported by BBC news or other media outlets. It had become normalized.

So ignore the noise. Ignore the normies on social media they are not nerds like us on this forum who understand the depths of this conflict and continue with the mission.

Don't even need to debate the merits of taliban claims. Share the airstrike footage and lets move on to the next target.
 
Since the Indians are openly out for Pakistani blood after this Kabul bombing, the right question to ask is, how many of of those human garbage Hindoos were smoked by our flyboys together with the Talibastards.

We definitely hurt them too bad this time.
 
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They were already killing us as is, so might as well make them feel our pain too but long term we might need a regime change, but NRF guys are also anti-Pakistan afaik, and even if they are not, I doubt that they'll be able to conquer all of Afghanistan.

So idk the long-term direction of this conflict, but it's better than "peace" because now at least we're hitting them back. At least it makes us feel better.
 
Sainthood 2.0 said:
They were already killing us as is, so might as well make them feel our pain too but long term we might need a regime change, but NRF guys are also anti-Pakistan afaik, and even if they are not, I doubt that they'll be able to conquer all of Afghanistan.

So idk the long-term direction of this conflict, but it's better than "peace" because now at least we're hitting them back. At least it makes us feel better.
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Not merely "hitting them back" - what a lot of people don't see is, even if permanent peace is still a long end in sight still, we so far achieved:

— A noticeable decrease in attacks within Pakistan, despite announcements by TTP groups to increase attacks

— A morale boost in Pakistan, down to the soldier level who were sitting ducks, but now have a fighting chance

— Degrading Afghan military capacity to get rid of any possible second war-front.

— Signalling a powerful resolve to their aggression, which will surely impact their morale and perception. Weakness from our side increases morale.

— Revenge (Qisās) for the own blood we lost, creates deterrence.

— Ending the old parasitic relationship with the Taliban/Afghan in public eyes, even if abruptly.

Lot of things still left at both the strategic regional level, and ground tactical level. But this was good. You don't get instant one-shit victories like a video game in the real world, it's a process.
 
Sainthood 2.0 said:
They were already killing us as is, so might as well make them feel our pain too but long term we might need a regime change, but NRF guys are also anti-Pakistan afaik, and even if they are not, I doubt that they'll be able to conquer all of Afghanistan.

So idk the long-term direction of this conflict, but it's better than "peace" because now at least we're hitting them back. At least it makes us feel better.
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While I am not in favour of interfering with another countries politics, I am in favour of a sealed border between Afghanistan and Pakistan.
This has been tge need for the last 70 years .
Most importantly jamming the mobile phone signals from Afghanistan, which are always used for smuggling and terrorism
This was highlighted multiple times in General Raheel Sharif era. But then the military and the government left this on Afghan side to make arrangements.
 
Meanwhile Afghans on Twitter still lol :rofl::

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In all honesty, we need more clear ground footage of dominance, the skies humiliated them enough but ground footage would be the top layer. Burst raids in and out.

Then the cherry on top would be a Northern insurgency
 
T80UD said:
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It's no longer about political principles but critique for the sake of critique for these cultists.

The establishment and by extension the Army is response for grave disasters in Pakistani history - there is no way around it. But it is also part of the national fabric, shaped by the same political and social forces that define the country. It is not a monolith. It is a collection of individuals, institutions, and decisions that reflect the broader reality of a nation grappling with corruption, elitism, and instability. At the same time, it has protected the country from external threats which includes responding to Afghan terrorism from groups like the TTP and Afghan Taliban, even as Pakistan's past role in fostering jihadist networks during the Soviet era created blowback.

The Army's response to this threat drew broad public consensus for its operations, despite residual sympathies for jihad rooted in that historical external support. Yet it confronts entrenched Afghan hostility toward Pakistan, a mindset tracing back to early Afghan invasions of India from a place of Pashtun racial superiority, persisting through the Khilafat movement and escalating into post-partition Pashtunistan claims that sought to carve up Pakistani territory.

Even earnest peace talks, including those reportedly encouraged by Imran Khan, collapsed due to the irreconcilable mindset of the TTP, Afghan Taliban, and broader Afghan attitudes.

Now, consider the political system: a deeply flawed, elitist structure that the establishment and military have long helped perpetuate through interventions that weakened civilian institutions, fostering corruption, cronyism, and zero accountability across Pakistan's journey. Imran Khan ultimately failed to deliver anything beyond hollow rhetoric and piecemeal changes, wasting time on pointless poetry instead of building real legitimacy to govern and reform Pakistan as it actually is. Rather, he chased fantasies of stolen mandates, alienated every Pakistani ally with his self-aggrandizing principles even as those crumbled around his wife and her disciples and left his cult, who were already grumbling about his lack of results, to redirect their fury at everything else through context-free outrage and endless goalpost shifts.

There has been no more vociferous critique of the military's excesses, corruption, and incompetence since the days of the old forums and I dare the entire DNA of this party's supporters to find even a sliver of such in their history on those forums prior to their messiah.

But, The military stands as Pakistan's only functioning institution as a fait accompli born of the national character that favors impatience and shortcuts over patient institution-building. In moments of crisis, they have acted as a stabilizing force, even when those crises were in part of its own making. When no one else steps up to bear that burden, whether by design or simply because Pakistanis are who they are and built the system they built, the institution fills the vacuum. To vilify the entire army for the actions of a few is to throw out the baby with the bathwater.

Unfortunately, these critics aren't interested in reform or justice. They're interested in feeling superior. They want to see the military fail, even when its actions were, at least in part, a response to a broken system that predates the very people now running it.
 
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