Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[vizier]

Installing manpads to shaheeds is one solution for this. Another wave of shaheed flying behind this one that is shot down can engage the helicopter.





Another solution that comes to my mind is attaching a backward directed fragmantation bomb on top of shaheed. the helicopter is engaging the drone from very close range. A small fragmantation shaped charge warhead attached on top of shaheed in self destruct mode has the probability of fragments hitting helicopters behind. It can at least damage the helicopters if not bringing them down. The fragments should be spread semi-spherically behind the shaheed as the helicopter is not directly behind the drones in those shots.

 

[Ali_Baba]

If we were to look for footages starting the Oct. 7 Gaza war and well into the start of this war, then Netanyahu was seen a lot more than he has been seen in last several days. Netanyahu is a media guy, just like Trump is, and wouldn't miss a chance to crow about his 'achievements' these days.
He is almost certainly gravely injured right now. It remains to be seen if he is dead or in a coma or going to come out with limp or perfectly fine. Otherwise, his long absence doesn't serve Israel's war narrative.

I honestly don't think anything has happened to him at all. Iran does not have that capability. I think this is more about maintaining a low profile in front of the American audience so that the message of "this is Israel's war" is not reinforced. Every word he would say would get echoed across the USA media, and he is deliberately avoiding that. He wants Trump to own this, and not put across that this is "Israel's war" etc.

 

[Meengla]

Right.. Ok so valid excuses for Pakistan, but we can't be afforded them. Like as if Israel is not a major superpower compared to us and the disparity of strength between them and us aren't 10 times bigger than between Pakistan and India. As if Israel isn't being backed 10 times more by western powers and the USA compared to India. lol
Excuses for me, but not for thee. Sure.

I think I am done arguing with you. But... maybe the last attempt: Israel occupies some strategic land close to the Syrian capital Damascus--taken even more land after the so-called 'Peace' came to Syria and may even take more land in future. Pakistan also fought the Superpowers (the Soviets and the Americans) indirectly, Pakistan also lost a lot in economy and innocent dead--and since 1980-- but Pakistan still fought on, even for the tiny sliver of 20,000+ ft elevation of the Siachen Glacier.

So my advice to the saner elements of the Syrian society remains: Join the fray in case of a regional war and take back your land unless you want to say goodbye to your land for a long time, if not for generations.

Land is good. Strategic land is priceless!

 

[j_hungary]

Precisely. GCC provides a radar shield for Israel. Warning times for Israel are higher when that shield is functional. That's in addition to some of those nations also involved in the shooting down of Iranian munitions and the permitted overflight of Israeli munitions.

Yet Al Jaz keeps howling "but we are Switzerland of the east saar!".

Actually.

The Air Shield for the US and Israel always relies on the AWACS and JSTARS capabilities the US had, which come in a package of Satellite, E-3D/E-2D/RAAF E-7, E-8, combined with a ground-based control station and AEGIS on the Ocean.

If you are taking out the Saudi Ground station, the Air Force can pick it up with either Aerial Mobile Command (or TACAMO, which is a bunch of EC-130E) or the E-4s if push comes to shove

Boeing E-4 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Lockheed EC-130 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

And that's before we start talking about SIGINT and IMGINT

Unless you can challenge the US in the Air and Space, you can't take out the USAF Early Warning Capability.

 

[Yasser76]

Considering how many sorties US is flying, one F-35 damaged, or even lost, is small fry. Fly around low or medium level enough some AAA gunner will eventually get lucky

 

[SolarWarden]

"Suspected" Iranian fire per the headline published on CNN.com.

The damage must not have been significant enough if it was able to make it to a base somewhere in friendly territory.

AAA fire. US fighters have been flying low in broad daylight doing gun runs. Now watch the usual suspects make this more than it is with their severe exaggeration about hitting an F-35.

 

[Meengla]

I honestly don't think anything has happened to him at all. Iran does not have that capability. I think this is more about maintaining a low profile in front of the American audience so that the message of "this is Israel's war" is not reinforced. Every word he would say would get echoed across the USA media, and he is deliberately avoiding that. He wants Trump to own this, and not put across that this is "Israel's war" etc.

Possible but highly unlikely.
Netanyahu and Trump are, above all, media guys and both work as if there are no consequences for their actions.

 

[VCheng]

Excuses for me, but not for thee. Sure.

That is a great point, but please also keep in mind to stay strictly on the topic in this thread, lest you be removed, but not some others, as your point says.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Considering how many sorties US is flying, one F-35 damaged, or even lost, is small fry. Fly around low or medium level enough some AAA gunner will eventually get lucky

only problem is, is it the first time F35 has flown in such conditions?

IDK, im not a war historian or an expert

and, did the pilot know about guns?

 

[tsunset]

Footage of the interception of F-35 over central Iran

 

[hasn2009]

 

[mythbuster]

I honestly don't think anything has happened to him at all. Iran does not have that capability. I think this is more about maintaining a low profile in front of the American audience so that the message of "this is Israel's war" is not reinforced. Every word he would say would get echoed across the USA media, and he is deliberately avoiding that. He wants Trump to own this, and not put across that this is "Israel's war" etc.

Even if what you said is a spin it's a masterpiece of spin .

 

[FUB]

With all of that money, you think he gets some work done on his teeth.

 

[FUB]

 

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