Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[FUB]

Why are they showing restraint? Turn to ashes.

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[Haz]

I think I am done arguing with you. But... maybe the last attempt: Israel occupies some strategic land close to the Syrian capital Damascus--taken even more land after the so-called 'Peace' came to Syria and may even take more land in future. Pakistan also fought the Superpowers (the Soviets and the Americans) indirectly, Pakistan also lost a lot in economy and innocent dead--and since 1980-- but Pakistan still fought on, even for the tiny sliver of 20,000+ ft elevation of the Siachen Glacier.

So my advice to the saner elements of the Syrian society remains: Join the fray in case of a regional war and take back your land unless you want to say goodbye to your land for a long time, if not for generations.

Land is good. Strategic land is priceless!

Thankfully, we're not following your advice, since its clearly not sound or in our best interest given our current state , and that's not the real reason you are arguing for it at this point in time either. It's clearly based on ulterior motives and not what's the best course of action for us, in the short or long term.

That logic not only leads to more pointless death and suffering without any hope of any real gains, as if we haven't had enough of that already, but also very likely leads to the entire country breaking apart again into balkanized regions like we were just a month ago, and reactivation of separatists that we just managed to subdue that are backed by Israel and the West, leading to more civil war.

I've already spelled out the reality of our situation right now and how it's completely detrimental for us to actually pick this fight, but conveniently you just ignore them while making very similar arguments of why Pakistan shouldn't get involved, because none of that is actually important to you, since whats best of us is not the real motivation here.

 

[Gripen9]

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[Aziqbal]

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you cant hit and not take down a small fighter like F35

doesn't seem reasonable

 

[Cash gk]

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This is big

 

[030292]

so trump just said no boots on the ground as per reuters, which means there will be boots on the ground, i hope iran has plans to inflict heavy damages as soon as they land.

 

[Takayoshi]

Any ideas what SAM was used to track and fire at the F-35?

 

[RealNapster]

Washington Post citing sources: Detection of unidentified drones over a military base where the Foreign and Defense Ministers are staying in Washington

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We're those unidentified "drones" round in shape and moved un-naturally defying aerodynamics and gravity ? Welcome to the life of a common American where 1 in 3 believes aliens are real and they are among us.

 

[RescueRanger]

How could it still fly after a hit like that? The airplane in the middle also seems suspect , its exhaust trail is a straight line.

It's one of the most advanced aircraft in the world. That's why.

 

[Yasser76]

For a military that was supposed to be degraded Iranians sure are putting up a fight

 

[JonAsad]

F35 took a direct hit, hard to imagine it landed, where is the full video? The question is Why it's not the full video?

 

[Ali_Baba]

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Basically confirmed at this point then. The jet did well to survive it seems given the size of the explosion itself.

 

[Flotilla]

you cant hit and not take down a small fighter like F35

doesn't seem reasonable

This changes everything.
If just one of those are shoot down all the war is over. That would mean Irán can track and shoot down 5 gen aircraft and therefore russians and Chinese also.

 

[Brutal.]

 

[Meengla]

For a military that was supposed to be degraded Iranians sure are putting up a fight

The scarier part of the war for Israel are the Houthis, the Iraqi militias, and of Hezbollah. This has just gotten started.