Pakistan-Saudi Arabia mutual defense pact: News & Discussion

[MastanKhan]

Hi,

It is no seceret that there was no love lost betweeen Pres Obama and Israel---. As a matter of fact---Obama hated the jews with a passion and it was no secret---.

Durong his tenure he had learngt what the Zionist plan was for the region---. What I am saying is that his advisor told him what Netanyahu had planned whence he came to power---. That made Obama very concerned for the region---.

That was the moment that the Yemen conflict started. Obama shared his thoughts with the british and they got on the same page as to invite pak military to come take charge of the area---built up a military force to contain Yemen aggression and build a military powet that brought stability to the region.

And n this very forum I had suggested that Pak military build a massive battle groups---all with independant air force---navy---armor---artillery---special force---transport---all quick deployment troops---.

The arabs were desperate for pakistan's help---they were scared---they were confused---they desperately wanted protection---.

But a certain dominant minority religious group was against this buildup---. In playing proxy to the neighbor---they let the middle-east peninsula helpless and ill prepared for combat---.

It also gave Israel carte Blanche to do whatsoever it wanted to do in Palestine---. Netanyahu came to power---and then the Hamas darama starts---.

What idiot vcould beleive that if you setup offencive weapons 150 yards fro the israeli fence that the enemy would not know---.

I firmy beleive that the Hamas knew about it---their Proxy leaders in Iran knew about it---. Both of them knew that Israel would decimate palestinins and yet both Hamas and Iranian Ayotullah's intentionally became a part of the SLAUGHTER of the PALETINIANS---so that a major major conflict erupts---nations get destroyed ---people get massacred---for what---for the coming of Mahdi Sahib---.

Do the tyrants really beleive that the Mahdi sahib would come and give these murderers of humanity a hug---?

 

[Jango]

I am still amazed at the timing of the pact.

There was no pact required. Everyone knows that Pakistan will stand with the KSA in times of extreme need. What makes it very strange is that right before the war, we entered into this agreement.

Can anyone believe that one party was not aware of the incoming war in the region?

If you can believe that then I need a bridge to sell you!

It does seems though an off ramp is being created after diplomatic efforts, and TACO is going to come. Unless ofcourse our good friend Israel does something else. Iran released our oil tankers and their President and new Ayatollah also put out statements. Don't imagine we want to make another neighbor our enemy for the next 30 years.

 

[Watandar]

O bhaiyo.. can anyone give a nice summary of the defense pact we have signed with KSA? Has anyone read the agreement? Where can I access that?

I tried searching on google but the actual text of the pact is not available. The pact was never presented or debated in Parliament , hence it's legally meaningless.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Hi,

It is no seceret that there was no love lost betweeen Pres Obama and Israel---. As a matter of fact---Obama hated the jews with a passion and it was no secret---.

Durong his tenure he had learngt what the Zionist plan was for the region---. What I am saying is that his advisor told him what Netanyahu had planned whence he came to power---. That made Obama very concerned for the region---.

That was the moment that the Yemen conflict started. Obama shared his thoughts with the british and they got on the same page as to invite pak military to come take charge of the area---built up a military force to contain Yemen aggression and build a military powet that brought stability to the region.

And n this very forum I had suggested that Pak military build a massive battle groups---all with independant air force---navy---armor---artillery---special force---transport---all quick deployment troops---.

The arabs were desperate for pakistan's help---they were scared---they were confused---they desperately wanted protection---.

But a certain dominant minority religious group was against this buildup---. In playing proxy to the neighbor---they let the middle-east peninsula helpless and ill prepared for combat---.

It also gave Israel carte Blanche to do whatsoever it wanted to do in Palestine---. Netanyahu came to power---and then the Hamas darama starts---.

What idiot vcould beleive that if you setup offencive weapons 150 yards fro the israeli fence that the enemy would not know---.

I firmy beleive that the Hamas knew about it---their Proxy leaders in Iran knew about it---. Both of them knew that Israel would decimate palestinins and yet both Hamas and Iranian Ayotullah's intentionally became a part of the SLAUGHTER of the PALETINIANS---so that a major major conflict erupts---nations get destroyed ---people get massacred---for what---for the coming of Mahdi Sahib---.

Do the tyrants really beleive that the Mahdi sahib would come and give these murderers of humanity a hug---?

seems, you cant argue intelligently

im very disappointed with your post

i could write a very malleably price argument to break your thought process

but, I wont, bec, you cant think straight!

 

[PakSword]

In fact , this is individual decision of Muneera , no one knows the term and conditions. It never came in Form 47 parliament, like Gen Reheel Shareef who brought the Yemen issue in parliament.
But seems, Israel and US ordered him to protect Saudi, before they start Iran war.
It was all planned and Gen Muneera was part of this plan and sold out traitor General. But yesterday act was massive damage by insulting one sect.

The summary I have read (provided by @RescueRanger sir) shows good terms for Pakistan to invoke in its future war with India.

I am just worried that right after the Iran-Israel war, KSA may terminate the agreement (there must be some much needed termination clauses in that agreement).

I am not sure how KSA can help or allow Pakistan bomb Indian occupied Kashmir with so many of its investments.

 

[Watandar]

Now Saudi on media saying , Pakistan will provide nuclear umbrella. so that one is also sold by our Generals.

I think Saudis are in for a nasty surprise on this. Pakistan has said from day one, their nuke and missile programs are India specific, which is wise wording.

 

[PakSword]

I think Saudis are in for a nasty surprise on this. Pakistan has said from day one, their nuke and missile programs are India specific, which is wise wording.

As you said earlier, no one has seen the real agreement, so you never know. I would be surprised if even Shahbaz Sharif is privy to that. The outcome might surprise us.

 

[HAIDER]

The summary I have read (provided by @RescueRanger sir) shows good terms for Pakistan to invoke in its future war with India.

I am just worried that right after the Iran-Israel war, KSA may terminate the agreement (there must be some much needed termination clauses in that agreement).

I am not sure how KSA can help or allow Pakistan bomb Indian occupied Kashmir with so many of its investments.

Saudi and remaining GCC runaway from OIC on Kashmir issue. UAE building hotels in disputed Kashmir.....why we bent over so much.

 

[PakSword]

Saudi and remaining GCC runaway from OIC on Kashmir issue. UAE building hotels in disputed Kashmir.....why we bent over so much.

UAE doesn't have anything to do with Pakistan to be honest. UAE has a lot in common with India. 40% of its current population is Indian. They have defense agreement with India as well.

KSA rolls over loan to Pakistan (thanks so much for that), but has pledged $100B worth of investments in India, many in the disputed territory of IOK.

I am not against any agreement between the two nations, I just want equality when the times change and Pakistan is in need of help, not with money, or personnel, but by stopping the oil of India during the war. That would be a great help.

But I am not very confident, given the relationship between India and KSA, that my wish will come true.

 

[HAIDER]

UAE doesn't have anything to do with Pakistan to be honest. UAE has a lot in common with India. 40% of its current population is Indian. They have defense agreement with India as well.

KSA rolls over loan to Pakistan (thanks so much for that), but has pledged $100B worth of investments in India, many in the disputed territory of IOK.

I am not against any agreement between the two nations, I just want equality when the times change and Pakistan is in need of help, not with money, or personnel, but by stopping the oil of India during the war. That would be a great help.

But I am not very confident, given the relationship between India and KSA, that my wish will come true.

very simple and clear, these leaders will not come rescue during Pak-India war. Lip service and that's it.
Well UAE is involve in Baluchistan, which been discuss many times before.

 

[RescueRanger]

The outcome might surprise us.

This. A lot of people gamifying things they are just not privy too.

 

[RescueRanger]

Pak-India standoff. WAR

Fixed that for you.

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

I am still amazed at the timing of the pact.

There was no pact required. Everyone knows that Pakistan will stand with the KSA in times of extreme need. What makes it very strange is that right before the war, we entered into this agreement.

Can anyone believe that one party was not aware of the incoming war in the region?

As per the Foreign Minister Ishaq Dar's address in the Pakistani Parliament, he confirmed that the PDM Government had started working on the defence pact in 2022. (People have forgotten who was the Army Chief in 2022 ).

Now, look at the events leading up to the signing of the defence pact:

Date​	Event​
15/08/2021​	Taliban take over Afghanistan and immediately turn against Pakistan by releasing TTP terrorist held in Afghan prisons.
16/01/2024​	Iran for no reason at all attacked Pakistan with missiles and rockets during an Interim Government period.
07/05/2025​	India attacked Pakistan after a false flag operation with US encouragement.
13/06/2025​	Israel attacked Iran.
22/06/2025​	United States attacked Iran.
09/09/2025​	Israel attacked Qatar.
17/09/2025​	Saudi Arabia and Pakistan sign the Strategic Mutual Defence Agreement.

 

[RescueRanger]

Breakdown and critical analysis of Operation: Muhafiz-Ul-Bahr

This operation represents a shift from independent naval patrolling to a coordinated "conveyor belt" of protected transit between Gwadar and Karachi.

As the Strait of Hormuz remains under "contested control" following the February 28 strikes, this protocol is the only way Pakistan is currently receiving the 100–120 million liters of oil arriving from the UAE and Saudi Arabia.

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1. Two-Stage Escort Structure: The protocol divides the 450km coastline into two distinct responsibility zones to manage the risk of Iranian or "proxy" interference:

• Stage A: The Deep-Sea Handover (PLA-N Presence):While the Chinese PLA-Navy has been cautious about participating in a Western-led coalition, it has deployed a "Surface Action Group" (likely Type 052D destroyers) to the North Arabian Sea. Their role is non-kinetic overwatch: they position themselves between the Iranian coast and the shipping lanes, providing a "radar umbrella" and electronic shielding for tankers destined for Gwadar.
• Stage B: The Coastal Shuttle (Pakistan Navy):Once a tanker enters Pakistan's Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ) near Gwadar, the Pakistan Navy takes over. Two frigates (typically Zulfiquar-class or Tughril-class) flank the tanker in a "tight diamond" formation. They provide the physical "kinetic" protection against the specific threat of FPV drones and suicide speedboats.

2. Silent Transit technical specs: To minimize the chance of being targeted by long-range missiles, the protocol mandates "Silent Transit" for all tankers:

• AIS Blackout: Tankers like the Karachi (PNSC-operated) are ordered to turn off their Automatic Identification System (AIS) transponders 50 miles before the Makran coast.

• Encrypted Data-Link: The escort ships use the JMICC (Joint Maritime Information Coordination Centre) in Manora to feed real-time satellite data to the tanker, allowing it to navigate without broadcasting its own position.
• Anti-Drone EW Bubbles: The escort frigates project a 2km "Electronic Warfare Bubble" around the tanker to jam the control signals of any loitering munitions launched from the rugged coastal cliffs.

3. Logistic "Sanctuary" Hubs: The protocol identifies three "Sanctuary Hubs" where tankers can anchor under heavy guard if a threat is detected:

1. Gwadar Anchorage: The primary "waiting room" for tankers entering from the Gulf.
2. Ormara (PNS Ahsan): A mid-point refueling and tactical stop where the Navy can swap escort crews.
3. Karachi Port/Port Qasim: The final offloading point, which is now protected by a permanent 5-mile "No-Fly Zone" for all unauthorized drones.

4. Integration with CEPC: The PLA-N’s involvement is specifically framed as "Infrastructure Defense" for CPEC. By protecting the tankers moving into Gwadar, China ensures that the Gwadar-to-Kashgar land route remains a viable alternative if the sea routes to Shanghai are completely severed by the US-Israel-Iran war.

 

[PakFactor]

Bro , there are always opportunities in crisis ....all you need to do is identify them and greet them.

Well said, there are always opportunities in crisis; however, who benefits the most needs to be well understood. Let's use the 2008-2009 Great Financial Crisis as a starting point, based on my observations from the stock market.

We had an individual who lived in a tent on a retail property. Then you had a businessman. Crisis hit: foreclosures in the market, vacancies going through the roof, and people losing businesses and getting laid off. I put our liquid funds into the market, and the portfolio has grown 1,000x since then. The man in the tent is still there.

(This is just to give a general idea, without being exhaustive in details.)

So you see, the moral is that if you are broke and have no money, you have no options, unless, of course, if you qualify for credit, which, in our case, Pakistan doesn't even do when a crisis hits, you are not a direct beneficiary. Multiple crises have occurred in world history, but I have yet to see it capitalize on any of them.

I never knew a lug wrench that had the opportunity to change a flat and benefited from it.