Pakistan-Saudi Arabia mutual defense pact: News & Discussion

_Arabia_ · Mar 24, 2026

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This is Riyadh (the most targeted region due to the proximity in KSA terms (140 km) of the Prince Sultan Air Base - during this imaginary non-existing war (in the case of KSA):

Goes for all of KSA - whether the tiniest mountain, desert or coastal village to all the largest cities across the country whether north, south, central, west or east.

This was Abha (close to the North Yemeni border and a city located 2270 meters above sea level) a few days ago:

Zero noise from the Houthi cult throughout.

Najran which sits right on the North Yemeni border yesterday:

Reading this forum, it would appear like KSA is somehow facing an imaginary existential crisis 24/7

due to a few drones of which 99% are dealt with successfully. Drones that can barely damage anything of note to begin with.

Lastly if the Iranian regime goal was to remove the US from those small GCC states - they have failed (like usual) once again because regimes there have just publicly announced that their cooperation with the US will just increase after this. What is worse - expect Israel to get a greater foothold and cooperation in places like UAE, Bahrain and even Qatar and potentially Oman. So in other words - the publicly stated goals of the Iranian regime, removal of US and Israeli influence in the region, is now only going to backfire. This is actually a negative for KSA long term but once again wherever the Iranian Mullah regime is present - misery and failure follows.

Most importantly this will further accelerate the integration of the GCC and ultimately give KSA the opportunity to once again swallow up the smaller GCC states all but in name. The Mullah regime have actually given us a helping hand in weakening the Abu Dhabi regime. I predict that this conflict will reduce their ability to conspire against KSA. Attacks on Bahrain have also cemented significant KSA military presence once again. Qatar has been hit hard (their main gas field) further accelerating their dependence on KSA. Kuwait was/is already a KSA colony all but in name as well.

There are also credible reports that KSA and Houthis have reached a comprehensive long-term agreement after the Abu Dhabi regime was removed from Yemen by KSA. This would explain their complete silence. This is good as North Yemenis are our brothers and sisters and we harbor no hatred to the average North Yemenis or vice versa.

Yemen has 50 million people. By 2050 they will have almost 130 million people. KSA and Yemen will merge all but in name as well - reunifying Arabia while being the two motors in this endeavor.

Starlord · Mar 24, 2026

_Arabia_ said:
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This is Riyadh (the most targeted region due to the proximity in KSA terms (140 km) of the Prince Sultan Air Base - during this imaginary non-existing war (in the case of KSA):

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Goes for all of KSA - whether the tiniest mountain, desert or coastal village to all the largest cities across the country whether north, south, central, west or east.

This was Abha (close to the North Yemeni border and a city located 2270 meters above sea level) a few days ago:

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Zero noise from the Houthi cult throughout.

Najran which sits right on the North Yemeni border yesterday:

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Reading this forum, it would appear like KSA is somehow facing an imaginary existential crisis 24/7 due to a few drones of which 99% are dealt with successfully. Drones that can barely damage anything of note to begin with.

Lastly if the Iranian regime goal was to remove the US from those small GCC states - they have failed (like usual) once again because regimes there have just publicly announced that their cooperation with the US will just increase after this. What is worse - expect Israel to get a greater foothold and cooperation in places like UAE, Bahrain and even Qatar and potentially Oman. So in other words - the publicly stated goals of the Iranian regime, removal of US and Israeli influence in the region, is now only going to backfire. This is actually a negative for KSA long term but once again wherever the Iranian Mullah regime is present - misery and failure follows.

Most importantly this will further accelerate the integration of the GCC and ultimately give KSA the opportunity to once again swallow up the smaller GCC states all but in name. The Mullah regime have actually given us a helping hand in weakening the Abu Dhabi regime. I predict that this conflict will reduce their ability to conspire against KSA. Attacks on Bahrain have also cemented significant KSA military presence once again. Qatar has been hit hard (their main gas field) further accelerating their dependence on KSA. Kuwait was/is already a KSA colony all but in name as well.

There are also credible reports that KSA and Houthis have reached a comprehensive long-term agreement after the Abu Dhabi regime was removed from Yemen by KSA. This would explain their complete silence. This is good as North Yemenis are our brothers and sisters and we harbor no hatred to the average North Yemenis or vice versa.

Yemen has 50 million people. By 2050 they will have almost 130 million people. KSA and Yemen will merge all but in name as well - reunifying Arabia while being the two motors in this endeavor.

dude you don't have to copy-paste these videos of every thread, yeah we know your country has tall shinny buildings, and lots of money... maybe suggest your people and leaders use some of the money to buy a "Pair".

_Arabia_ · Mar 24, 2026

Starlord said:
dude you don't have to copy-paste these videos of every thread, yeah we know your country has tall shinny buildings, and lots of money... maybe suggest your people and leaders use some of the money to buy a "Pair".

We have some of the world's oldest heritage sites and cities as well. You are writing nonsense as there are barely any skyscrapers in KSA. You, like most other Ajamis, are confusing KSA with Doha, Abu Dhabi and Dubai. Clueless in other words. No offense. KSA is 1.5 times the size of Iran. There are large areas of KSA that have retained the same architecture for the past 1500 years, South and Hejaz in particular. Much like in neighboring Yemen next door (world famous for this) and Oman.

KSA leadership has turned KSA into one of the most stable, wealthy and successful states with living standards that 99% of the Muslim world (and most of the world) can only dream of. Thank you very much. And unlike all other Muslim nations - our leaders were not imposed by the West nor did we ever copy the West.

We are the only non-Western people, outside our fellow Semitic Phoenician cousins, to have ruled large parts of Western Europe for centuries. In the case of Arabs from KSA - for almost 800 years (Spain and Portugal) completely transforming those countries culturally, linguistically, culinarily, agriculture

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Agricultural_Revolution:

ethnically (10-20% Arab blood on average among all Latinos)

Spanish having 1000's of Arabic origin words. Most main Spanish cities are of Arabic origin - Madrid the capital included.

Watch and listen why KSA will always be secure as well:

Do not worry about us - we do not care about those obsessed about us or our ill wishers.

And KSA likely already has nukes - former CIA high-ranking leaders, even IRGC generals have said so much:

HAIDER · Mar 24, 2026

_Arabia_ · Mar 24, 2026

This topic on itself is nonsense. Nobody is going to invade KSA (LOL) let alone a failed regime like Iran that cannot protect itself. They will get carpet bombed by our RSAF before they even land in KSA.

This "deal", whatever it entails, is only about existential threats but in reality there is little Pakistan would be able to do should the USA or Israel nuke KSA, for instance, in some alternative universe or if the US launches a land invasion of KSA. Or China. Or Russia.

Much like Pakistan and everyone else cannot do anything to stop the US and Israel from carpet bombing Iran next door. Or Gaza. Or Lebanon.

290 pages for pretty much no reason at all.

Even the Pakistani soldiers that were part of Gulf War 1 did not participate in any offensive operations unlike KSA and the US in places like Kuwait and Khafji.

No Pakistani participation in Yemen either. Nor Syria or anywhere else.

Yet the usual Arab-obsessed trolls in this thread have a vivid imagination of somehow KSA and the "all powerful" MbS "fooling" Pakistan into some imaginary conflict with Iran. Laughable.

Pakistan has a severe numerical disadvantage against India in all spheres (outside of nukes but even there India likely has more) and have perpetual problems with Afghanistan next door. Pakistan will play no role whatsoever in the Middle East IMO in the foreseeable future.

Not to mention that Pakistan and Pakistani economy is kept alive by KSA and the GCC to a large degree. For decades by now.

Yet we have "geniuses" here, supposed Pakistanis, who want to destroy the small GCC states - that host millions of Pakistanis (which the Pakistani state depends on to a large degree - remittances - oil and gas etc.). No wonder that the state is as it is with such "strategists".

This is not criticism - the Pakistani army due to its size and most importantly nuclear weapons - is still the most powerful Muslim army on paper.

But the reality of the matter is that there are only 2 existential threats (realistically and that too is unlikely) for KSA in the foreseeable future. Either a rogue US (which Pakistan cannot do anything against) or Israel (which Pakistan cannot do anything against either due to Israel being an extension of the very same US).

@SteppeWolff I know that you are an obsessed troll but you can laugh all you want to, you cannot argue against any of my factual points. However I would like to see you try and embarrass yourself in the process.

RAMPAGE · Mar 24, 2026

_Arabia_ said:
Pakistan will play no role whatsoever in the Middle East IMO in the foreseeable future.

Not to mention that Pakistan and Pakistani economy is kept alive by KSA and the GCC to a large degree. For decades by now.

Do you see any disconnect between these two statements?

_Arabia_ · Mar 24, 2026

RAMPAGE said:
Do you see any disconnect between these two statements?

No. Because most people/users here are talking about some imaginary Pakistani force fighting for/alongside KSA against some imaginary existential threat against KSA or some imaginary land invasion.

To this I reply that the only existential (potentially and somewhat remotely realistic) threats against KSA are the US and Israel. The latter an extension of the US itself.

Pakistan cannot do anything against those two adversaries much like Pakistan cannot do anything to prevent Iran from getting carpet bombed 24/7 by the US and Israel. Or how it could not prevent Israel from attacking Gaza or Lebanon next door etc.

That is not to say that Pakistan has not a very clear and vested interest in a stable KSA/GCC - which is self-evident due to the economic and people to people (world's largest Pakistani diaspora) relations as well as religious and cultural as well as historical reasons.

To me it is pointless to talk about this pact because it plays no role whatsoever currently at least and is unlikely to do so.

The only realistic adversary of KSA that could involve any kind of land warfare are the Houthis but KSA dealt with them from 2015-2020/2021 without Pakistan who declined involvement back in March 2015.

Therefore as I wrote most of what is written in this thread is hot air and frankly nonsense.

RAMPAGE · Mar 24, 2026

_Arabia_ said:
No. Because most people/users here are talking about some imaginary Pakistani force fighting for/alongside KSA against some imaginary existential threat against KSA or some imaginary land invasion.

To this I reply that the only existential (potentially and somewhat remotely realistic) threats against KSA are the US and Israel. The latter an extension of the US itself.

Pakistan cannot do anything against those two adversaries much like Pakistan cannot do anything to prevent Iran from getting carpet bombed 24/7 by the US and Israel. Or how it could not prevent Israel from attacking Gaza or Lebanon next door etc.

That is not to say that Pakistan has not a very clear and vested interest in a stable KSA/GCC - which is self-evident due to the economic and people to people (world's largest Pakistani diaspora) relations as well as religious and cultural as well as historical reasons.

To me it is pointless to talk about this pact because it plays no role whatsoever currently at least and is unlikely to do so.

The only realistic adversary of KSA that could involve any kind of land warfare are the Houthis but KSA dealt with them from 2015-2020/2021 without Pakistan who declined involvement back in March 2015.

Therefore as I wrote most of what is written in this thread is hot air and frankly nonsense.

Why is the Pakistani economy, as you put it, is kept alive by GCC/KSA? What is the significance of this defence pact. If it is clear to you that Pakistan will play no role in the Middle East, it is even more clear to most of us that Pakistan does not require a defence pact with KSA. Why add this dimension to the relationship? What does it provide, to either country, that the previous relationship could not?

Starlord · Mar 24, 2026

_Arabia_ said:
We have some of the world's oldest heritage sites and cities as well. You are writing nonsense as there are barely any skyscrapers in KSA. You, like most other Ajamis, are confusing KSA with Doha, Abu Dhabi and Dubai. Clueless in other words. No offense. KSA is 1.5 times the size of Iran. There are large areas of KSA that have retained the same architecture for the past 1500 years, South and Hejaz in particular. Much like in neighboring Yemen next door (world famous for this) and Oman.

KSA leadership has turned KSA into one of the most stable, wealthy and successful states with living standards that 99% of the Muslim world (and most of the world) can only dream of. Thank you very much. And unlike all other Muslim nations - our leaders were not imposed by the West nor did we ever copy the West.

I'm loving the FACT the you using terms like Ajami and, we have the oldest Heritage makes me wonder who else talk like that? cough cough Chosen ones...
But lets not forget that Arab ancestry Originate from the line of Abraham who was from the Iraq so chill on that Arab cola.
Now you are flexing about Arab wealth is just comical as it can get, I literally said that we know you have Tall shinny buildings yeah but all that money and Wealth can't buy a pair for your leaders who are more submissive than a mistress.
Now Please don't post more videos about how Awesome and wealthy you are, cause we already know.

_Arabia_ said:
We are the only non-Western people, outside our fellow Semitic Phoenician cousins, to have ruled large parts of Western Europe for centuries. In the case of Arabs from KSA - for almost 800 years (Spain and Portugal) completely transforming those countries culturally, linguistically, culinarily, agriculture

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Agricultural_Revolution:
ethnically (10-20% Arab blood on average among all Latinos)

Spanish having 1000's of Arabic origin words. Most main Spanish cities are of Arabic origin - Madrid the capital included.

Watch and listen why KSA will always be secure as well:

Blah blah blah, useless banter, nobody cares.

_Arabia_ said:
Do not worry about us - we do not care about those obsessed about us or our ill wishers.

And KSA likely already has nukes - former CIA high-ranking leaders, even IRGC generals have said so much:

That I agree you guys do not care, 100k Palestinians murdered and you guys did not care in fact you guys facilitate that, and now you guys are pushing for American Attack on Iran (News of MBS pushing for Iran War) shows that Arabs of today would've put the Sahabah of Prophet to shame, if Rasool Allah or his family was alive you guys would've put them in house arrest if not in jail.

I mean seriously? you really expect me to take you serious after you make such idiotic claims, you have nukes while your people are bragging about "Activating" PACT with Pakistan, you needed America to fight Iraq back in the 1990's and still do, can't even beat the Rag Tag Militia of Houthis after years of bombardment. And yeah your cities are safe because no one is attacking you, Iran only targets are American bases which were used to launch attacks on Iran, but carry on I know Arabs needs something to feel useful and brave so they don't look complete jackA$$es of the region, making Alliances with a country that Ethnically cleanse Palestine, murdered thousands of Lebanese, totally obliterate Syria, Libya and Sudan..

_Arabia_ · Mar 24, 2026

RAMPAGE said:
Why is the Pakistani economy, as you put it, is kept alive by GCC/KSA? What is the significance of this defence pact. If it is clear to you that Pakistan will play no role in the Middle East, it is even more clear to most of us that Pakistan does not require a defence pact with KSA. Why add this dimension to the relationship? What does it provide, to either country, that the previous relationship could not?

Did you know that it was KSA that kept the Pakistani economy afloat for years prior to, during and several years after your first public nuclear tests and the subsequent heavy sanctions that at the time were only second to those that were imposed on Saddam's Iraq?

Who do you think constantly extends loans to Pakistan or forgives them entirely? Or secretly (non-public knowledge) funds most key Pakistani military projects? Who sends most of the oil and gas that keeps Pakistan afloat as a society and economy? Who hosts the largest Pakistani diaspora that sends 10's of billions of remittances annually if not monthly?

Did you know that KSA forgave the Saudi Arabian loans to Pakistan in the early 2000's as well entirely?

Or have you read about the direct Saudi Arabian support for Pakistan during 1965 and 1971?

I do not know, neither does anyone here but if you ask me, the only thing that I can think of, is that this was a direct message to Israel that they should know their limits in the region in relation to KSA. Or something else entirely. Difficult to tell. Or maybe, as you wrote, both parties wanted to make this strategic/close relationship public in the form of a treaty - that we to this day do not have the full details off entirely.

Starlord said:
I'm loving the FACT the you using terms like Ajami and, we have the oldest Heritage makes me wonder who else talk like that? cough cough Chosen ones...
But lets not forget that Arab ancestry Originate from the line of Abraham who was from the Iraq so chill on that Arab cola.
Now you are flexing about Arab wealth is just comical as it can get, I literally said that we know you have Tall shinny buildings yeah but all that money and Wealth can't buy a pair for your leaders who are more submissive than a mistress.
Now Please don't post more videos about how Awesome and wealthy you are, cause we already know.

Blah blah blah, useless banter, nobody cares.

That I agree you guys do not care, 100k Palestinians murdered and you guys did not care in fact you guys facilitate that, and now you guys are pushing for American Attack on Iran (News of MBS pushing for Iran War) shows that Arabs of today would've put the Sahabah of Prophet to shame, if Rasool Allah or his family was alive you guys would've put them in house arrest if not in jail.

I mean seriously? you really expect me to take you serious after you make such idiotic claims, you have nukes while your people are bragging about "Activating" PACT with Pakistan, you needed America to fight Iraq back in the 1990's and still do, can't even beat the Rag Tag Militia of Houthis after years of bombardment. And yeah your cities are safe because no one is attacking you, Iran only targets are American bases which were used to launch attacks on Iran, but carry on I know Arabs needs something to feel useful and brave so they don't look complete jackA$$es of the region, making Alliances with a country that Ethnically cleanse Palestine, murdered thousands of Lebanese, totally obliterate Syria, Libya and Sudan..

Ajami simply means non-Arab. In your case you are of Indian origin from what I know from our past discussions. So you are included in this designation. Just like a Latvian or Papuan would be or a Paraguayan.

I have seen you write utter nonsense (ignorant nonsense) about Arabs a few times. This was another example (skyscrapers). Just helping educate you a bit. Nothing personal.

South Iraq which is Arabia and in any case we are talking about fellow Semites which are native to Arabia, Mesopotamia and Levant. One of the oldest recorded peoples in the world with the worlds oldest alphabet and written sources among many other things - including civilizations itself.

You are a troll. Nobody was flexing about any wealth. I posted videos of Riyadh and other areas of KSA that show that everything is peaceful and that life continues as normal. You are projecting as usual.

But people/I should care about your nonsense. OK.

More nonsense. Who are "we" and who are you to talk in the name of 550 million Arabs across 20 + countries and 7 continents? I was merely stating a fact. Nobody could precent it due to the US involvement. Just like nobody can prevent Iran from being carpet bombed 24/7 by the very same US and Israel. No amount of posts on PDF could or can stop this.

The Iranian Mullah regime is an enemy regime that has been hostile towards KSA since 1979 and actively supported our enemies as well as engaging in opportunistic meddling in war torn Arab countries. It is well deserved that they are now getting attacked and that chickens are coming home to roost.

I personally hope that KSA will join the war against this regime to help remove this failed regime in order to restore normal and cordial ties as they were before 1979.

More nonsense. KSA was not under attack by Iraq, Kuwait was. But I don't expect you to even locate Kuwait on a map.

Houthis were defeated by KSA to the extent that KSA now controls 90% of Yemen and all the oil, gas and 90% of the coastline while the Houthi cult are limited to mountains, caves and Sana'a which is of no economic importance other than being the capital. All while losing very few soldiers and suffering almost no damage within KSA.

Houthis for the past 4 years have not even send a single projectile towards KSA. Not even when KSA was throwing the Abu Dhabi regime out from Yemen earlier this year.

The only reason why KSA has not carpet bombed the Houthis and exterminated them is because they hide among civilian people - our fellow Arab and Muslim brothers and sisters. It is only KSA restrain that keeps them alive. Because if we wanted we could have turned Sanaa into Gaza 10 years ago. But we are not stupid and none of us (ordinary people) would support such a thing as we do not support attacks on innocent fellow Arabs and Muslims. We never attacked Iraqis (civilians) in 1991 either.

Besides KSA and Houthis have now reached an understanding - hence no war/conflict for 5 years now.

RAMPAGE · Mar 24, 2026

_Arabia_ said:
I do not know, neither does anyone here but if you ask me, the only thing that I can think of, is that this was a direct message to Israel that they should know their limits in the region in relation to KSA. Or something else entirely. Difficult to tell. Or maybe, as you wrote, both parties wanted to make this strategic/close relationship public in the form of a treaty - that we to this day do not have the full details off entirely.

I suggest you find the answer to that question before you go claiming that "Pakistan will play no role whatsoever in the Middle East IMO in the foreseeable future."

As for my own biases, I really have none because I'm agnostic on these questions; you should be too considering you cannot provide a rationale for the defence pact.

_Arabia_ · Mar 24, 2026

RAMPAGE said:
I suggest you find the answer to that question before you go claiming that "Pakistan will play no role whatsoever in the Middle East IMO in the foreseeable future."

As for my own biases, I really have none because I'm agnostic on these questions; you should be too considering you cannot provide a rationale for the defence pact.

No role in the sense of military engagement If the premise is that the only existential threat (potentially and somewhat remotely realistic albeit much more unrealistic than realistic) towards KSA is the US and Israel (an extension of the very same US). Can you argue against this point? Otherwise what prevented Pakistan - the strongest Muslim military and only official Muslim-majority nuclear armed state from stopping Israel in Gaza, Lebanon and elsewhere? Or what stops Pakistan from preventing the US and Israel from carpet bombing Iran next door 24/7 for almost 4 weeks by now?

We have seen that Pakistan was nowhere to be seen (like everyone else) in those cases. Why should KSA be any different here?

Even more so if we take into account the domestic realities of Pakistan itself (politically fragmented, economy not in the best place), active hostilities with far bigger and larger and on paper more powerful India (with 8 times the population) and now a hostile Taliban regime next door in Afghanistan - Pakistan has already attacked Taliban/Afghanistan and a border conflict has raged for months.

I gave you a rationale for this pact - it was merely a cementation (going public) about the KSA-Pakistan relationship (historic and strategic in many ways) that have lasted since almost the time of Pakistan's inception back in 1947.

It was formalized 2-3 months after a very turbulent era in the region.

Starlord · Mar 24, 2026

_Arabia_ said:
South Iraq which is Arabia and in any case we are talking about fellow Semites which are native to Arabia, Mesopotamia and Levant. One of the oldest recorded peoples in the world with the worlds oldest alphabet and written sources among many other things - including civilizations itself.

The Arabia is not "Saudi Arabia", and you saying that Iraq of the time of Abraham was Arabia is true but we are talking about present, which I was responding to your " we have the oldest heritage " Banter, calm down Habibi there are several other and much older civilization that exists and may even surface in the future. You claiming for a civilization "Babylon/Mesopotamia" is like Latvia taking credit for German ingenuity by claiming that we both are in EU hence same.

_Arabia_ said:
You are a troll. Nobody was flexing about any wealth. I posted videos of Riyadh and other areas of KSA that show that everything is peaceful and that life continues as normal. You are projecting as usual.

Sure bud, but its not me who is going around posting video of KSA cities and saying life is going normal, which is fine by me but you clearly miss the whole point, Iran is not attacking your cities, so your cities should go by normal life, heck even in several small cities/towns in Iran things are as normal as it can get, because those cities are not the targets, just like KSA cities are not the targets.

_Arabia_ said:
But people/I should care about your nonsense. OK.

Well its a free world you don't have to care about my nonsense

_Arabia_ said:
More nonsense. Who are "we" and who are you to talk in the name of 550 million Arabs across 20 + countries and 7 continents? I was merely stating a fact. Nobody could precent it due to the US involvement. Just like nobody can prevent Iran from being carpet bombed 24/7 by the very same US and Israel. No amount of posts on PDF could or can stop this.

Of course you can not stop the war just as you can't stop the Genocide in Palestine, but at least you can stay neutral and not let Americans use your bases/Air space to bomb Fellow Muslims, if this MBS rumor is indeed True I have serious concerns about Pakistan Trusting KSA, and I can see why Turks always vary of Arabs.

Also if you can't stop USA, you can't stop Israel, you can't stop America using your Air space, or build bases, then you are not a sovereign country are you? so what's with all that Bravado ? lol

_Arabia_ said:
More nonsense. KSA was not under attack by Iraq, Kuwait was. But I don't expect you to even locate Kuwait on a map.

I can point to Kuwait, my uncle worked there for 15-20 years before moving back, Try again... Plus maybe read a book or two about the Desert Storm, it was the fear of Iraq that your leaders beg America to build bases in KSA to protect it in exchange of Petro-dollar and oil.

_Arabia_ said:
Houthis were defeated by KSA to the extent that KSA now controls 90% of Yemen and all the oil, gas and 90% of the coastline while the Houthi cult are limited to mountains, caves and Sana'a which is of no economic importance other than being the capital. All while losing very few soldiers and suffering almost no damage within KSA.

Wow Awesome, you finally learn what a insurgency is, Houthis are a militia so they will be fighting from mountains and caves, if they have Presidential palaces and mansions those will be the first one to get bombed, they don't have a Standard Army, its a insurgent militia group. Houthis were defeated by KSA, Houthis were defeated by America, etc etc... and yet they until very recent manage to keep launching BM towards Israel and various ships.
I know you guys don't have much bravery to show in your recent history but damn at least stop making shih up just for the sake of it, like its quite embarrassing.

_Arabia_ · Mar 24, 2026

Starlord said:
The Arabia is not "Saudi Arabia", and you saying that Iraq of the time of Abraham was Arabia is true but we are talking about present, which I was responding to your " we have the oldest heritage " Banter, calm down Habibi there are several other and much older civilization that exists and may even surface in the future. You claiming for a civilization "Babylon/Mesopotamia" is like Latvia taking credit for German ingenuity by claiming that we both are in EU hence same.

Sure bud, but its not me who is going around posting video of KSA cities and saying life is going normal, which is fine by me but you clearly miss the whole point, Iran is not attacking your cities, so your cities should go by normal life, heck even in several small cities/towns in Iran things are as normal as it can get, because those cities are not the targets, just like KSA cities are not the targets.

Well its a free world you don't have to care about my nonsense

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Of course you can not stop the war just as you can't stop the Genocide in Palestine, but at least you can stay neutral and not let Americans use your bases/Air space to bomb Fellow Muslims, if this MBS rumor is indeed True I have serious concerns about Pakistan Trusting KSA, and I can see why Turks always vary of Arabs.

Also if you can't stop USA, you can't stop Israel, you can't stop America using your Air space, or build bases, then you are not a sovereign country are you? so what's with all that Bravado ? lol

I can point to Kuwait, my uncle worked there for 15-20 years before moving back, Try again... Plus maybe read a book or two about the Desert Storm, it was the fear of Iraq that your leaders beg America to build bases in KSA to protect it in exchange of Petro-dollar and oil.

Wow Awesome, you finally learn what a insurgency is, Houthis are a militia so they will be fighting from mountains and caves, if they have Presidential palaces and mansions those will be the first one to get bombed, they don't have a Standard Army, its a insurgent militia group. Houthis were defeated by KSA, Houthis were defeated by America, etc etc... and yet they until very recent manage to keep launching BM towards Israel and various ships.
I know you guys don't have much bravery to show in your recent history but damn at least stop making shih up just for the sake of it, like its quite embarrassing.

Utter nonsense. People of Southern Iraq and KSA are exactly the same - confirmed by 100's of DNA tests and the current border is artificial. Just like the other borders in Arabia. In essence all borders are artificial but anyway. Millions of Saudi Arabians and Iraqis have recent relatives across the border - myself included.

Saudi Arabia is the same thing as Arabia. 80% of it in fact. You are just discussing semantics. This is like claiming that modern-day Pakistan has no ties to IVC because there was no Pakistan back then, LOL. Come on. All modern-day states and borders are artificial in that sense. People and the land itself however are not.

I can claim every Arab and Semitic civilization because those are our civilizations. Which we have genetic/ancestral, historical, geographic, cultural, linguistic etc. ties to.

Try again. The Arabized enemy Mullah regime has targeted KSA with over 600 drones and almost 100 ballistic missiles. The reason why hardly anything has been damaged is not some kind of imaginary "Mullah mercy" but due to the strong work of our air defense, soldiers and army.

I already told you the Iranian regime has been an enemy of KSA since 1979 and have aided our enemies for decades as well as meddled opportunistically in numerous war torn Arab countries as well as helped create havoc in Syria, Lebanon, Iraq and Yemen. They aided the Houthis for 6-7 years who directly targeted our people, soldiers and land.

I do not care about their regime and as I wrote to you chickens are coming home to roost.

You cannot stop the US and Israel either. So what is your point? Nobody seemingly can.

KSA and US have been allies before Pakistan was born. You have a problem with that? Is that why you migrated to the same US out of your free will?

No it is not embarrassing. KSA could have destroyed all of North Yemen but we did not do that because we do not target fellow Arabs and Muslims and Houthis hide among civilians. Besides it is very hard to destroy militias that hide in mountains and caves. You should know since you cannot defeat the Taliban either or even terrorists within Pakistan itself - unlike KSA.

OK, what can you be proud of in your modern history? Losing half of your country (Bangladesh) in a war with your main enemy? At least KSA never lost any territory since 1932. A friendly advice, stop writing utter nonsense constantly and obsessing about KSA and Arabs. You do it constantly - even when not engaging with me. Find some hobby. Arabs are not your enemies, never were and never will be, no matter how many trolls there are on this forum or elsewhere who seem obsessed with us.

RAMPAGE · Mar 24, 2026

_Arabia_ said:
No role in the sense of military engagement If the premise is that the only existential threat (potentially and somewhat remotely realistic albeit much more unrealistic than realistic) towards KSA is the US and Israel (an extension of the very same US). Can you argue against this point? Otherwise what prevented Pakistan - the strongest Muslim military and only official Muslim-majority nuclear armed state from stopping Israel in Gaza, Lebanon and elsewhere? Or what stops Pakistan from preventing the US and Israel from carpet bombing Iran next door 24/7 for almost 4 weeks by now?

I gave you a rationale for this pact - it was merely a cementation (going public) about the KSA-Pakistan relationship (historic and strategic in many ways) that have lasted since almost the time of Pakistan's inception back in 1947.

It was formalized 2-3 months after a very turbulent era in the region.

I concede your point that Pakistan cannot fight a war protecting KSA to which the US is a party. So why not discount this rationale entirely and look for some other explanation for the agreement? Even if it is a cementation of the existing military relationship, it presumes Pakistan's role in the ME; it does not rule it out at all. It is clear that the Saudi state sees Pakistan playing some role in the ME. If Pakistan is providing some sort of military deterrence, is that not a role?

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